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[Megggas]

PTW

(If I wasn't a total mafia newb, I would have definitely asked to be the replacement.  I've been keeping a close eye on this game and I'm intrigued by the concept.)

[notquitethere]

Huh. Deus being targeted really surprises me. I felt that after he was siding with TDS (who flipped virus) he was probably TDS' ally trying to save him. Basically, killing Deus makes little sense for a virus team. I've basically got two theories here:

1 - There are two full-scum teams (maybe two players each?) but only one has Adware has a kill and adware offed Deus thinking he was a virus.
2 - The virus team are AFK and their night target was chosen randomly.

The first theory seems unlikely to me on thematic grounds (viruses are more likely to be killers). If the second theory is true, then Peradon must be scum.

[TheBiggerFish]

Are we ever going to replace Peradon?
I mean, he hasn't said anything or done anything.  Like, at all.  And that's gone on so long that I really can't condone letting him lurk and possibly kill people (as per NQT, but I don't particularly trust HIM either.)

[origamiscienceguy]

Are we ever going to replace Peradon?
I mean, he hasn't said anything or done anything.  Like, at all.  And that's gone on so long that I really can't condone letting him lurk and possibly kill people (as per NQT, but I don't particularly trust HIM either.)

Why don't you trust NQT? Obviously, you shouldn't trust anyone, but why him in particular?

[TheBiggerFish]

Are we ever going to replace Peradon?
I mean, he hasn't said anything or done anything.  Like, at all.  And that's gone on so long that I really can't condone letting him lurk and possibly kill people (as per NQT, but I don't particularly trust HIM either.)

Why don't you trust NQT? Obviously, you shouldn't trust anyone, but why him in particular?

Despite the fact that he raises good points about Peradon,  I just don't like this argument.
He's dismissing any alternate theories,  I guess might be it.
... You know what,  Unvote for right now.  I'm just not comfortable with this for some reason.

[notquitethere]

I'm not dismissing anything at this stage. We can only act on our best information. If you've got a better theory, I'd like to hear it.

[origamiscienceguy]

I have an alternate theory, one scum team of viruses, and a third-party adware. Since I haven't been killed after my reveal, either the 3rd party simply didn't get a kill last night, or there is only one, who is now gone. The scum team (viruses) each have different effects if they carry out their action. TDS is the one that is causing a bunch of gibberish in his posts, and his scum buddy (I think there is only one more) is the one who simply deletes sections of people's posts.  If this is true, then I would suspect that the one who is making the least effort to figure out what is going on, or the one who makes some strange suggestions are the scum.

[TheBiggerFish]

I have an alternate theory, one scum team of viruses, and a third-party adware. Since I haven't been killed after my reveal, either the 3rd party simply didn't get a kill last night, or there is only one, who is now gone. The scum team (viruses) each have different effects if they carry out their action. TDS is the one that is causing a bunch of gibberish in his posts, and his scum buddy (I think there is only one more) is the one who simply deletes sections of people's posts.  If this is true, then I would suspect that the one who is making the least effort to figure out what is going on, or the one who makes some strange suggestions are the scum.

Or that third-party has an odd wincon.
But that thing about odd suggestions...Points at NQT, to me.
That suggestion feels very odd.
...Hm.
Was TDS's vote meant to draw suspicion away from NQT?
...I feel like I'm waffling way too much.
Not going to vote right now though.

[origamiscienceguy]

If the third party is the adware, then they would need some reason to post adware. Which means it is somehoe related to their winon. (and whoever took down the ad on day 1) am preventing them from getting their wincon.

[TheBiggerFish]

If the third party is the adware, then they would need some reason to post adware. Which means it is somehoe related to their winon. (and whoever took down the ad on day 1) am preventing them from getting their wincon.

...No edit log?
Ugh.
You're probably right about that.

[Mephansteras]

Quarantine Count
Peradon: notquitethere



Active Cycle 4 ends ~5pm Pacific Tuesday.

roo will be replacing in for Peradon.

[origamiscienceguy]

Roo First of all, is there anything you need clarified to facilitate your catching-up, then, is there anything important Peradon probably should have told us?

[roo]

Tomasque

I know this sounds farfetched and somewhat scummy, but I think that the "mafia" are the ones that change the posts. Their choice of post was a good one, but it was too late. Why was it a good post? Just look:

Oh! Quarantine means vote. That makes alot more sense now.

If a person who didn't understand that read the post, they would realize that it was really simple to vote. If they couldn't read it, they might not realize it until the following day, but they probably would have declared a no lynch the day before because of there confusion! See how that would benefit the mafia?

If it was changed on behalf of a player I agree that it was probably changed by mafia (or a malicious 3rd party). That said, nobody was pushing for a no lynch at the time, so I'm not sure how well that theory holds.


TheBiggerFish

Roight.  In the interest of not confusing everybody, I'm going to stop with the code stuff.  That and that is actually kind of hard to do. 
@NQT: Don't you mean work of Armok?

Sure, my mistake.

@Everyone: Do you actually know your wincon?  Just yes or no.
I know mine.

Yes.

(That is to say, I don't have anyone I suspect, but I don't want to die, so it's a floating vote somewhere to just tie up the quarantine votes?  If that's even a thing?  I don't think it's a thing.  Ugh.  But seriously.)

Not being able to form suspicions is the #1 scumtell in my book. There's been enough activity, if you're town you should be able to form a provisional case on someone.

Umm huh? NQT.

Who were you suspicious of before TBF? And where is your case on them. :rolls: I don't mind pots and kettles being black or however the saying goes, but come on those fighting words you used. You even scolded him...I thought that was interesting. The vote is for the sheer hypocrisy of it all, and the weight you put into your words. Nqt you make it sound like he was a weird sexual deviant who ought to know better. As far as this post of yours has told me that you aren't scumhunting  ergo you're scum.

In an unrelated segment shakerags initial vote is bad. It doesn't make any sense to me either. The emotional content in the post. You went from: chill (asking flabort stuff), angry (voting for tbf), neutral (questions). I think what stood out to me was the fact that tbf said a few posts later if it was annoying he would stop doing it, so why not ask him to simply stop?

Shakerag query: Why did you let emotional dysfunction get in the way of real scum hunting?

On page 4 there has been some interesting things; Won't bother cluttering though. I think I have 40 ppp (unsure).

[TheBiggerFish]

@Roo: Probably 50 ppp.  I don't think 40 is an option.

[roo]

If you have questions, ask me and I'll answer.  Maybe not at 100% capacity, though, because lack of sleep sucks and yesterday already feels like last week.

@Mrph: Your call

Longer day please.

I'll vote for longer day.

From this I'd say tbf is scum. I would say shakerag is town for pointing out tds and teneb bandwagon on tomasque. Ogs unsure he has been very forgettable this game. Its not 40ppp its on standard I had it at a fairly high number tho. I'll change it after I'm done reading through. On page 7.

TBF query: How many scum do you think are left?