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[kokoszka]

Hello there. As long term DF fans we decided to ask this wonderful community for a favor.

We're trying to determine whether there is an audience for a vegan survial horror game set in the real world

Take a look at our campaign at thunderclap https://www.thunderclap.it/projects/32135-pigsodus-a-pig-drama?locale=en and support us if you think our idea is great (support with facebook button).

Our landing page will be live in a few days so if you have any ideas let us know.


Thanks so much
Piotr & Sawa | Psilocybe games

[Shadowgandor]

The concept could be interesting, but it's going to be an effort to get it right. I personally can't really imagine an engaging game with this concept, but I'm willing to be surprised

[ZebioLizard2]

Might be good, but at the same time most of these games I see in those sort end up very...Preachy, and tend to only appeal back to those who already believe the message.

[Neonivek]

My alarms are already ringing like crazy. Though perhaps it is because your entering a market that is saturated with preachy and terrible 'vegan' games that depict meat eating in only the most course and insipid touches. I am already having flashbacks to that Cooking Mama satire where Cooking Mama might as well have become vegetarian because she discovered she doesn't know how to cook. Or the guy who takes ultra-blown-up pictures of meat to try to grouse people out and stop eating meat.

And while you might be better then all the others, and have a very insightful and fun game on your hands, but you didn't really demonstrate that with what little is written.

Or rather... PETA ruins everything.

[IronyOwl]

This looks terrible. Sermons pretending to be entertainment seldom end well, and this looks like exactly that. Maybe your full sales pitch will sell it better, but right now I have a solid idea of why you want to make the game and no idea why anyone would want to play it. Meat is wrong and pigs are people too and oh the porcinity! But what's going to make your game fun and interesting to play? What's it about, other than trying to not die while also being a pig? Does it have levels or stats or stealth or combat or...?

I have no idea, because you were too busy preaching to me about meat to get to those parts. Which, from the perspective of making a game, is catastrophically bad.

[TempAcc]

Eh, with what we got so far, it kinda looks like one of those hamfisted and unintentionally hilarious PETA games. We kinda need more info on the actual plans for the game rather than just random ideological banter :v

[Bouchart]

I saw "pig drama" and thought David Cameron would be involved somehow.

[h3lblad3]

hamfisted

http://www.sadtrombone.com/

[kokoszka]

We'll reveal more details in time. For now thank you for feedback (yes IronyOwl, even yours!).

We will not turn this into a sermon don't worry. We chose the setting for the following reasons :

a) modern world is a dangerous and interesting environment for animals (high mortality rate, just like medieval times - look how many fantasy titles we have)

b) we love animals

c) we thought animal rights is a hot topic and will get us free publicity

We don't want to preach. We want to present reality in an entertaining way. If someone stops and thinks about the issue, that's great but first and foremost we want to make a great, interesting and original game. We are just tired of all the orcs running around. 

I know we are a little cryptic about the gameplay, but rest assured - everything will come in time.




Bouchart he might as well be

[Yoink]

Looks good.
Hope the gameplay measures up to the premise. 

[Cthulhu]

Preachy is the right word.  It's one thing to engage with important topics with a video game but when you're telling me exactly what you want me to think after playing your game, I can't imagine how annoying it'll be ina ctual gameplay

[Bohandas]

I saw "pig drama" and thought David Cameron would be involved somehow.

Yeah! Add David Cameron!

[Astral]

c) we thought animal rights is a hot topic and will get us free publicity

Maybe it's because I've lived fairly close to one of the PETA headquarter buildings on the east coast, but I feel this is a bad reason to make a game about it. Those guys have done as much harm as good for animal rights, if not more harm with their insane antics.

Anvilicious is another word that will likely describe this game, along with a few choice tropes from that same page.

Despite your assurances in this thread that it won't be heavy handed, I feel it's either going to be one of those walking simulator games that depends on the "story" rather than actual gameplay or a basic survival horror in the vein of Amnesia with your character dying in the end either way. And the descriptions on the site you linked do nothing to convince me otherwise.

Sorry, but I think I'll pass. Sounds like a bunch of hogwash.

[TempAcc]

Yeeeeeeeea, unintentional puns aside, as positive Bay12 tends to be towards gaming projects in general (that aren't just cheap cash grabs), what has been presented so far just shows strong hints of forced aesops with no actual concrete info of the gameplay involved, and if there's something that raises tons of warning signs for me, is a game project that seems to focus a LOT on the game's theme/art/plot while saying basically nothing of the actual gameplay features.

Maybe you do have an interesting idea reserved for it, and I wish you the best of luck, but from what we've seen so far... Eh, thanks but no thanks.

[Shadowlord]

Eh, with what we got so far, it kinda looks like one of those hamfisted and unintentionally hilarious PETA games. We kinda need more info on the actual plans for the game rather than just random ideological banter :v

Four legs good, two legs bad?