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Azkanan

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« Reply #15 on: September 26, 2015, 03:29:38 pm »

What do you think about food & starvation? I feel like keep track of it with figures and mechanisms are just going to break things.
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« Reply #16 on: September 26, 2015, 03:36:05 pm »

I like the idea of food & starvation. Food is what makes people live and it’s what people fight over in times of crisis. It'll also probably help keep things going at the right pace in game.
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« Reply #17 on: September 26, 2015, 03:43:33 pm »

What do you think about food & starvation? I feel like keep track of it with figures and mechanisms are just going to break things.
I think it depends on how much time you want to put into it. I could work just as easily with you saying "You rolled poorly for food, you need to fix it" as I can with "You have 3 food and 67 people, you need to fix it." The latter makes it so there's more consistency, and something for players to keep track of, but the former requires a lot less work and doesn't undermine gameplay significantly.

That being said, I think that food being something we have to deal with, either qualitatively or quantitatively, makes sense.
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« Reply #18 on: September 26, 2015, 04:00:16 pm »

I think it'll be real tricky to balance right, especially with so much random chance(not necessarily subjectivity; this is meant to make a story). A single die is extremely random, since every outcome has exactly the same chance of happening. And all you need is one bad harvest...if it was just that it might be annoying but it would probably be fine. But when you add in the real-time element, which necessitates being as active as possible for when you update/respond, it becomes a very tricky thing for everyone to navigate. If it isn't handled well by both player and GM, it will become little more than 'continue trying to get food' and 'numerical response'. Where, really, if food is hard to come by, usually a change in methods, or location, or whatever is required. Which might or might not be reflected in subsequent dice rolls. How much you want to dice rolls to decide, too, might play a part; hunting is certainly hit or miss, most of the time, with element of danger or bounty, but farming is usually fairly steady, which is why we switched to it. A 15 versus a 5 probably won't be as large of a difference, proportionally (the extremes are still the extremes, even if 5% chance feels a bit high for a blight to come through). And then, of course, there's the bit where people can usually live off of less than the optimum amount of food, but don't like it, when there's lots of food it usually gets eaten (or stored, if they're smart), and the people are a bit stronger or whatever...

It might be better abstracted, but...I dunno. Abstraction can be tricky too.
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« Reply #19 on: September 26, 2015, 09:48:21 pm »

you ever have one of those moments where you post in the IC thread for some game, and then realize there's an OOC thread?

i just did.

Uh, anyway, same question I posed in the IC thread: Too late to join?
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« Reply #20 on: September 27, 2015, 04:58:05 am »

So I took the night to contemplate food.

I want players to be able to do what they like, without feeling like they have to "redirect it" or "take a portion" of it away just to meet a criteria.

As such, I'm going to remove the food thing as a whole. I'm sure there will be plenty of dangers ahead without needing me to write you up for not meeting a number in a season.
Some of you may need to now update your turn, for example, Kassire's doesn't really need my input.

PlayerGamer, I'd love to have you onboard, I love playing with you. However I think I'm at the limit at the moment. Will PM you if one opens up.

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Well, it seems the majority of you need to update your posts, heh. Sorry. Also SpiderKing, how did your main group know to go to war, when your spies were travelling alone?
« Last Edit: September 27, 2015, 05:02:36 am by Azkanan »
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« Reply #21 on: September 27, 2015, 12:05:40 pm »

Also, just a small negligible detail here, so you put the flags on the Game map, but not in the OP. It seems pretty small but I think it would be neat to just have the small flag next to each Nation's name. Doesn't have to be done now, but I think it'll spice up the OP a little more.
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« Reply #22 on: September 27, 2015, 04:34:45 pm »

Food should still be an issue sometimes, I think. If events are going to be a thing, and odds are few of the players will want to give their group what they feel is a disadvantage (though, many things that are harmful on the surface can provide good opportunities for story-telling or justifications for various otherwise mostly illicit actions...).

Also my turn was fixed/updated.
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« Reply #23 on: September 27, 2015, 04:41:13 pm »

An issue, yes. But not something that we should ordinarily be concerned with. How we do feed our people should still be something of a thought though, given the methods can very much be an issue (Like crop failures, mass migration of game and other such things.)

Anyway, my post has been updated as well.
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« Reply #24 on: September 29, 2015, 04:38:48 pm »

Had a car crash and now I'm financially fucked. I don't have the time or sanity to concentrate on forum gaming right now. Sorry guys. I'll probably reboot this once I can think straight and I have the spare time I had for weeks on end a week ago. I'm physically fine, but my cars scrap. Beware the stupid drivers.  ::)
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« Reply #25 on: September 29, 2015, 04:54:18 pm »

My condolences. As it is always said, real life first.
Hope it works out for you in the end.
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« Reply #26 on: September 29, 2015, 06:47:08 pm »

Do what you need to do man. Keep strong and you'll get through this.
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« Reply #27 on: September 29, 2015, 08:27:00 pm »

That sounds awful. Glad you're okay, at least...hope everything turns out alright...
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