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Re: The World, Genesis, OOC (Interest Check)
« Reply #30 on: September 23, 2015, 02:00:24 pm »

How could a land Whale have a gravitational field? You do realize how immense something like that is right?
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Re: The World, Genesis, OOC (Interest Check)
« Reply #31 on: September 23, 2015, 02:07:46 pm »

How could a land Whale have a gravitational field? You do realize how immense something like that is right?
Well, maybe not quite enough to disrupt gravity, but I'm trying to work things out. And it's kinda hard to get the numbers right.
And the whole worship and sacrifice system is a nightmare and a half.
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Re: The World, Genesis, OOC (Interest Check)
« Reply #32 on: September 23, 2015, 02:10:48 pm »

How large exactly using irl scaling is each size category?
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Re: The World, Genesis, OOC (Interest Check)
« Reply #33 on: September 23, 2015, 02:15:50 pm »

Actually, I'll just tweak the numbers some more.
A creature of 10 size and 10 life gives 1 Essence per turn possessed, but good luck keeping that thing alive.
You'll have to make people to feed it, and then feed enough people to support such a system.
And hunting is a hopeless endeavor, as land-whales can be seen from far away, not to mention them having their own gravitational field.

So the formula for Essence gain is 0.001 * Size * Life2, so life is the most important piece.

But I might tweak some numbers to make long term feasible.
Currently the only viable strategy is land-whaling, there must be some way to have a normal person be a viable alternative.

Edit: Maybe...

Essence Gain = 0.1(Size)*Life = 0.1 for human, 10 for land-whale. A bit too big a difference.
Essence Gain = 0.1(Life) = 0.1 for human, 1 for land-whale. But that makes Life the only factor.
Essence Gain = 0.5(Size)*0.5(Life) = 0.25 for human, 25 for land-whale. No, too big.
Essence Gain = 0.5(Size)+0.5(Life) = 0.2 for human, 10 for land-whale. Close, but no cigar.

Edit 2: Maybe, it's a bit harsh, but maybe.

Stat Cost = X2
This makes Land-whales cost 10 Essence, rather than 0.1 Essence.

Essence Gain = 0.001*Size*Life2 = 0.001 for human, 1 for land-whale, no, not good enough.
Essence Gain = 0.1*Size*Life2 = 0.1 for human, 100 for land-whale, a bit too much in the land-whale department.
Essence Gain = 0.1*Size*Life = 0.1 for human, 10 for land-whale. Actually, Life will also give HP bonus and disease resistance, so why not.
But what about the quick-drain?

Quick Drain: Restores 0.001*Size*Life, but doesn't take an entire turn.
But then in order to restore 1 Essence... that's 1 000 people, who they just made. But they could make potentially cattle to do so.
Then again, there might be vampires.
You said size ten is ten times the size of a human, which is nowhere near as big as a "land-whale".

Also, if I'm understanding this correctly, Life is only important for essence gain and determining how much nutrients a creature provides when it's eaten?
« Last Edit: September 23, 2015, 02:17:37 pm by Demonic Spoon »
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Re: The World, Genesis, OOC (Interest Check)
« Reply #34 on: September 23, 2015, 02:39:10 pm »

How large exactly using irl scaling is each size category?
I'm just going to use Human as 1, and each over is that times the size of a human.
But having high Life... I'm still not sure.
This would make the smallest possible creature be like a tenth of a human in size (height for bipeds, length for quadrupeds).

It could either make them fat, or fit.

I'm considering altering Life's affect on consumption and yield.
Maybe Consumption/Yield = Size*0.5(Life) = 0.5 for humans, 50 for super giants (since land-whale is a bit misleading).
I meant land-whale as in: Immovable blob of flesh, because I kept thinking of the size 10 Life 10 as big and fat, but this will change it a bit.
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Re: The World, Genesis, OOC (Interest Check)
« Reply #35 on: September 23, 2015, 02:41:41 pm »

I actually find high life being equal to "I am now the the Great Fat One!" amusing, but it makes high life useless for anything but essence gain.
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Re: The World, Genesis, OOC (Interest Check)
« Reply #36 on: September 23, 2015, 02:51:24 pm »

I actually find high life being equal to "I am now the the Great Fat One!" amusing, but it makes high life useless for anything but essence gain.
Hence why I'm slimming it down.
Maybe 0.25 as a factor... it would make humans less desirable for meat, but the animal template can I have not use Life, and as such make naturally 4x higher yield in animals than humans.

1 Size, 1 Life = 1*0.25 = 0.25
1 Size = 1 = 1
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Re: The World, Genesis, OOC (Interest Check)
« Reply #37 on: September 23, 2015, 02:53:12 pm »

Your basically just spouting gibberish to me at this point, so maybe work it out privately and give us some revised rules when you're done.
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Re: The World, Genesis, OOC (Interest Check)
« Reply #38 on: September 23, 2015, 02:55:53 pm »

Your basically just spouting gibberish to me at this point, so maybe work it out privately and give us some revised rules when you're done.
Eh, I'm probably going to cancel this before the day is over.
It was badly planned, badly executed, and there's much better examples around.

Good thing I told you in advance about me probably not going to complete it.
I'd hate to disappoint people.
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Re: The World, Genesis, OOC (Interest Check)
« Reply #39 on: September 23, 2015, 02:59:52 pm »

Actually it seems pretty interesting so far, though you haven't quite managed to convey that we're weak in the mechanics, and I'm kind of dissapointed in the lack of stareaters.
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Re: The World, Genesis, OOC (Interest Check)
« Reply #40 on: September 23, 2015, 03:06:49 pm »

Actually it seems pretty interesting so far, though you haven't quite managed to convey that we're weak in the mechanics, and I'm kind of dissapointed in the lack of stareaters.
Why would there be stareaters in a universe without stars?
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Re: The World, Genesis, OOC (Interest Check)
« Reply #41 on: September 23, 2015, 03:12:51 pm »

I'm using stars to refer to those scattered light/heat source things you mentioned in the setting info.
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