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[Fawnek]

there was once a bone carver who went insane after trying to build an artifact, and lashed out at a nearby child, knocking it unconscious, the child's friend who will be called child2, decided the best thing to do would be to knock out the insane bone carver that just knocked out his friend. and keeping him that way until the local militia came to dispatch the Insane criminal.

Is it just me or are these kids really good at fighting?   

[klefenz]

Do you think there is any reason dwarven children should not be good at fighting?
They are dwarves after all, and they live in a very dangerous world.

[Fawnek]

Do you think there is any reason dwarven children should not be good at fighting?
They are dwarves after all, and they live in a very dangerous world.

because they would be smaller than a normal dorf... and less muscular considering they are children.

[klefenz]

But being smaller the are more agile and harder to hit.

[EuphoriaToRegret]

But being smaller the are more agile and harder to hit.

But wouldn't agility be effected by regular, horrific dwarvish life training?

I mean, something being smaller doesn't mean it's faster. Especially dwarves, considering they are already small in comparison to most creatures.
As you said, dwarves live in dangerous world. Wouldn't a fully grown dwarf be much stronger, smarter, and faster than a say... 6 year old dwarf?
Not to mention that a child would also take more damage and dish less damage out.

[Staalo]

Technically children are just smaller adults who have their labors artificially restricted. Attributes are assigned at birth and won't change except by training a skill that raises a specific attribute.

Their smaller size of course affects some things in combat but like any civilian dwarf they can engage and even kill opponents bigger than themselves, especially when in groups. I have seen a bunch of three year olds beat a giant to death.

[Shonai_Dweller]

A 13 year old savage dwarf child brought up freely roaming the untamed wilds should be quite capable of knocking out a 90 year old fat bone carver who's been stuck in his workshop whittling for several years.

[Fawnek]

A 13 year old savage dwarf child brought up freely roaming the untamed wilds should be quite capable of knocking out a 90 year old fat bone carver who's been stuck in his workshop whittling for several years.

HE HAS ONE JOB, AND HE DID IT WELL

[Witty]

Unarmed combat in general is very bizarre, which is leads to this sort of oddness (and is also more than likely the root cause of undead being so damn OP)

[Iamblichos]

Unarmed combat in general is very bizarre, which is leads to this sort of oddness (and is also more than likely the root cause of undead being so damn OP)

Undead barehanded are deadly.  Undead wielding a garment?  They can slaughter legions of legendary steel-clad warriors.  Even five-named hammerlords can be brought low by the dreaded xcave spider silk sockx.

[vjmdhzgr]

I heard a story about a fortress that got destroyed by demons where almost everybody was killed instantly, except for one child who managed to keep dodging all the attacks of the demon horde for a whole 8 months. Migrants even showed up and quickly died to demons, but the kid kept dodging. I'd guess they ended up starting with maximum agility, spatial sense, and kinesthetic sense and then just got incredibly lucky until eventually they reached legendary skill and just kept on going. So yeah, children are basically small adults, their attributes are at the same level as an average adult dwarf so you can very easily end up with 1 year olds that can kill adults with just their fists.

[Fawnek]

I heard a story about a fortress that got destroyed by demons where almost everybody was killed instantly, except for one child who managed to keep dodging all the attacks of the demon horde for a whole 8 months. Migrants even showed up and quickly died to demons, but the kid kept dodging. I'd guess they ended up starting with maximum agility, spatial sense, and kinesthetic sense and then just got incredibly lucky until eventually they reached legendary skill and just kept on going. So yeah, children are basically small adults, their attributes are at the same level as an average adult dwarf so you can very easily end up with 1 year olds that can kill adults with just their fists.

is it known in the bugs or no? ill go check if not ill make it so the children get beaten like they deserve.

[Zammer990]

I heard a story about a fortress that got destroyed by demons where almost everybody was killed instantly, except for one child who managed to keep dodging all the attacks of the demon horde for a whole 8 months. Migrants even showed up and quickly died to demons, but the kid kept dodging. I'd guess they ended up starting with maximum agility, spatial sense, and kinesthetic sense and then just got incredibly lucky until eventually they reached legendary skill and just kept on going. So yeah, children are basically small adults, their attributes are at the same level as an average adult dwarf so you can very easily end up with 1 year olds that can kill adults with just their fists.

is it known in the bugs or no? ill go check if not ill make it so the children get beaten like they deserve.

Bug?

I'd wager that if you were a 6 storey tall mass of smoke and hate you'd have a hard time grabbing, let alone hitting a greased up tiny 6 year old.

[Staalo]

Also, if a child manages to train Dodge skill to high enough level he/she becomes very hard to hit and can gradually punch even the largest monster to death with his/her tiny mitten clad fists while dodging every single attack. That's just how the combat system works, with the new pulping mechanics and all.

[Psieye]

Also, if a child manages to train Dodge skill to high enough level he/she becomes very hard to hit and can gradually punch even the largest monster to death with his/her tiny mitten clad fists while dodging every single attack. That's just how the combat system works, with the new pulping mechanics and all.

It also highlights how pulping is one-sided: the child's fists will never get pulped along with the target.

Hmm, does pulping still work against inorganic materials, e.g. Bronze Colossus?