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[gman8181]

No problem. It's a perfectly understandable situation.

Anyway, on a personal note, I wouldn't particularly mind if the game was on a "holidays only" schedule. Maybe update whenever you have a long break? That way it might feel more like a relaxed off time activity for when you actually have off time instead of some type of obligation. That might be even easier on you than continuing it with simplified rules while you're already busy with other stuff.

Not sure how anyone else would feel about that though.

All that aside, glad you at least had enough time to go on the forum. I always feel a little sad when someone I'm familiar with disappears completely.
Not that it was really that long but still.

[tntey]

Would anyone be up for a Wikipedia arena style God game? Your gods spheres would be based off random Wikipedia articles. Your goal will to be to reach certain mile stones to get more spheres. The end game would be to kill all other gods.

[Kilojoule Proton]

Spoiler: Remove collaborator requirements? (winner: Yes) (click to show/hide)

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Yes    - 8 (28.6%)
Yes    - 9 (32.1%)
No    - 6 (21.4%)
No    - 5 (17.9%)
Total Members Voted: 16

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Yes    - 17 (28.6%)
No    - 11 (21.4%)
Total Members Voted: 16

hector13 (and most everyone): YG-lite will likely emphasize sphere stuff a lot and de-emphasize the numbers parts in YG2. Combat will likely borrow from some simple free system (probably Savage Worlds? The free test drive version is comprehensive enough, and exploding dice allow for reasonably frequent exciting outcomes) to avoid the utterly unimmersive rock-paper-scissors variant used at one point to handle complicated messes in which >5 players swarmed on one thing. Actually, here's a little preliminary design document to be expanded bit by bit:

Spoiler: YG-lite thoughts (click to show/hide)

Keeping updates consistent:
        Use actions/Tick system instead of allowing essentially unlimited actions? Likely makes updates of O(n) complexity rather than the current O(n²) (Leaning toward 4-8 action points/Tick with major actions costing at least 2)
        Update only on holidays and off times? Updating YG is a lower priority when there's more time and media of entertainment...
        Limit player count? I really dislike this option, this is only a last-resort thing
        Downgrade to 2-stat system (health/Ichor and money/Essence)?
        Remove cap growth? Players become more powerful over time simply through having more creations anyway (and this adds emphasis to artifacts)
Balance:
        Keep collaborator requirements for many of the more typical projects? Probably not if sphere effects are expanded
        Keep collaborator requirements for many-sphere megaprojects? Probably, regardless of changes in sphere effect
        Change break-even factor? Currently 5, but 3 may simplify things
        Should there be sphere restrictions? A god with a sphere of "gods" or "game rules" would be absurd, but where is the line between acceptable and unacceptable?
        Should I patch overpowered things more slowly and with input?
        How many gods working how hard should be allowed to incapacitate another? I probably erred on the side of caution for YG2
Sandbox:
        What proportion of players is needed to create player content enforced on the remainder? (e.g. ashtray factory afterlife that grabs from all races and turns them into ashtrays)
        Should acting be more emphasized or should reacting be more emphasized?
        Should I place a delay on allowing combats to be revealed publicly if we manage to return to a 24h schedule (or some close approximation like 48h)?
        Switch from Ticks to an explicit time unit?
Theme:
        Is it still a god game at this point? Why not just a mage game? (I seem to sense lots of vocal support for magic stuff )
        How much technological advancement stuff does everyone like anyway? Advancing from single-celledness to many-celledness is not a priority for YG players, but developing (magi)tech seems to be one
        How can I make worldbuilding an ongoing thing? It's a high-value thing but tends to slow down or stop after the first few ticks
        Who wants one world to build on and who wants many worlds to build on?
        Do we need antagonists explicitly marked as such like in Demonic Spoon's game?
        Should gods be more anthropomorphic or less? (Currently, they are very, very anthropomorphic)
        Demigods and godchildren: Is there any hope of allowing this that has little chance of causing the game to be shut down? I'd bet six jars of peanut butter there's more than one game somewhere here somewhen that involves bloodlines/dynasties anyway

gman8181:
Holiday-only schedule: The main problem with that is that taken together, the stuff that can be done during holidays has a very high distraction factor (distractionation? distractivity?) compared to YG stuff. When there are things with lower distraction factors such as schoolwork, updating YG becomes favorable assuming there's enough time.

[Dutrius]

Fair enough.

[gman8181]

Would anyone be up for a Wikipedia arena style God game? Your gods spheres would be based off random Wikipedia articles. Your goal will to be to reach certain mile stones to get more spheres. The end game would be to kill all other gods.

I just used
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Random
for the hell of seeing how that could go.

I'm now struggling to think of how I might RP a god with the sphere of
"1938 European Athletics Championships – Women's 4 × 100 metres relay".

Jokes aside, I think that might be a little too subject to chance for my personal tastes.

hector13 (and most everyone): YG-lite will likely emphasize sphere stuff a lot and de-emphasize the numbers parts in YG2. Combat will likely borrow from some simple free system (probably Savage Worlds? The free test drive version is comprehensive enough, and exploding dice allow for reasonably frequent exciting outcomes) to avoid the utterly unimmersive rock-paper-scissors variant used at one point to handle complicated messes in which >5 players swarmed on one thing. Actually, here's a little preliminary design document to be expanded bit by bit:

Spoiler: YG-lite thoughts (click to show/hide)

Keeping updates consistent:
        Use actions/Tick system instead of allowing essentially unlimited actions? Likely makes updates of O(n) complexity rather than the current O(n²) (Leaning toward 4-8 action points/Tick with major actions costing at least 2)
        Update only on holidays and off times? Updating YG is a lower priority when there's more time and media of entertainment...
        Limit player count? I really dislike this option, this is only a last-resort thing
        Downgrade to 2-stat system (health/Ichor and money/Essence)?
        Remove cap growth? Players become more powerful over time simply through having more creations anyway (and this adds emphasis to artifacts)
Balance:
        Keep collaborator requirements for many of the more typical projects? Probably not if sphere effects are expanded
        Keep collaborator requirements for many-sphere megaprojects? Probably, regardless of changes in sphere effect
        Change break-even factor? Currently 5, but 3 may simplify things
        Should there be sphere restrictions? A god with a sphere of "gods" or "game rules" would be absurd, but where is the line between acceptable and unacceptable?
        Should I patch overpowered things more slowly and with input?
        How many gods working how hard should be allowed to incapacitate another? I probably erred on the side of caution for YG2
Sandbox:
        What proportion of players is needed to create player content enforced on the remainder? (e.g. ashtray factory afterlife that grabs from all races and turns them into ashtrays)
        Should acting be more emphasized or should reacting be more emphasized?
        Should I place a delay on allowing combats to be revealed publicly if we manage to return to a 24h schedule (or some close approximation like 48h)?
        Switch from Ticks to an explicit time unit?
Theme:
        Is it still a god game at this point? Why not just a mage game? (I seem to sense lots of vocal support for magic stuff )
        How much technological advancement stuff does everyone like anyway? Advancing from single-celledness to many-celledness is not a priority for YG players, but developing (magi)tech seems to be one
        How can I make worldbuilding an ongoing thing? It's a high-value thing but tends to slow down or stop after the first few ticks
        Who wants one world to build on and who wants many worlds to build on?
        Do we need antagonists explicitly marked as such like in Demonic Spoon's game?
        Should gods be more anthropomorphic or less? (Currently, they are very, very anthropomorphic)
        Demigods and godchildren: Is there any hope of allowing this that has little chance of causing the game to be shut down? I'd bet six jars of peanut butter there's more than one game somewhere here somewhen that involves bloodlines/dynasties anyway

gman8181:
Holiday-only schedule: The main problem with that is that taken together, the stuff that can be done during holidays has a very high distraction factor (distractionation? distractivity?) compared to YG stuff. When there are things with lower distraction factors such as schoolwork, updating YG becomes favorable assuming there's enough time.

Gotcha regarding the holiday stuff. Just thought I'd throw it out there.

Regarding your ideas for the lite version... Whatever works best for you? Being unfamiliar with to what extent exactly you're comfortable running the game and how much time each of those feature changes would save or cost you... I'm not entirely sure what input I should provide.

As far as how much each change would effect my enjoyment of the game... Let's see...

Spoiler: Keeping Updates Consistent (click to show/hide)

All ideas seem fine to me except I'd prefer we retain our cap growth if at all possible.
The limit on actions/tick is probably a very good idea actually. I feel like it would make people prioritize more and engage in less trivial actions.

Spoiler: Balance (click to show/hide)

My preferences for required collaboration tends towards none. Like I said a while back, I'd rather just have some actions be prohibitively expensive rather than require others to help. Then people have a choice of working with others or just focusing on that particular action for numerous ticks. Either way, people would individually be doing less on a tick per tick basis if things cost more. Especially if coupled with that action/tick limit that cuts back on people doing a bunch of small unimportant actions.

That said, if more collaboration requirements make running things significantly smoother for you, or if I'm outnumbered regarding my opinions, I'm still fine with things going in that direction. I'd rate what works best for you as the first priority overall, as far as what I want. All that above is simply my preference if both options are equally favorable to you.

Regarding sphere limitations, break even, and overpowered patching, I'm more or less indifferent. Whatever works best for you.

Spoiler: Sandbox (click to show/hide)

Proportion of player thing... Again, I'd rather go with prohibitively expensive.

Acting vs Reacting... Could you elaborate? I like acting but I do think it tends to clutter up the thread if done excessively, which seems to kind of happen sometimes. I'm guessing you probably have to sort through all that, which makes more work for you. Also, I'm pretty sure I've noticed quite a few players who aren't very good at bolding actions to make them easily distinguishable from the rest of the fluff they write. Bolding might make it easier for you to skim things if you want, so maybe acting with stricter enforcement of bolding? Not entirely sure if I understand the question though.

I'm indifferent towards combat delay and time.

Spoiler: Theme (click to show/hide)

I only noticed one person who really fixates on magic. I am somewhat interested in the (magi)tech aspect though. Or maybe (essence)tech? I think my actions towards that have been more or less similar to what I did last game with (essence)(bio?)tech, except maybe a little less bio focused? For me, it's kind of a spin off of the creative creation aspect of the game. Kind of creation with a twist... or maybe trying to twist creation? Not really sure but to me it's related to creation and somewhat integral to it from an enjoyment perspective. I think it's more of a personal preference though.

Got a little side tracked there. To state it plainly, I think tech advancement should be somewhat guided by the players. Maybe species can come up with some things on their own but I think it would be fine if the gods were the predominate pushing force towards technological advances. Maybe by investing essence or committing large quantities of their followers towards research of something in particular over a certain number of ticks, the species could develop it?

Unfortunately, I'm not sure what advice to offer on the world building.

I think usually there's a tendency to focus on one world in the game, even if there are many. That kind of happened last game. Two worlds but the one was more or less ignored if I recall correctly. The exception to that is probably when someone creates their own world or dimension and starts splitting their attention off to that.

I prefer subtle antagonists. I liked the thing going on with the Void Nulls last game where you weren't completely sure if they were enemies or not. Besides, I think we act as obvious antagonists to each other plenty.

Anthropomorphic. No opinion... Kind of... I try to make my god a little distant from being too humanized. I try to give him some more alien characteristics and morals. I wouldn't mind trying harder but I think it's something that's hard to enforce on everyone from an RP respective.

Demigods. I really don't think it's a big deal as long as specific details are glossed over. The only issue I can see is if the players get carried away. Cough cough, but I'm sure we're all mature enough not to do that here... or at least we'll probably call out anyone who does and ideally solve the problem with that.

[AbstractTraitorHero]

Anthromorphic that's gods that look like humans?

...would a human who became a god be anthropomorphic?

[Demonic Spoon]

Use actions/Tick system instead of allowing essentially unlimited actions? Likely makes updates of O(n) complexity rather than the current O(n2) (Leaning toward 4-8 action points/Tick with major actions costing at least 2)

I recommend one major action and two minor per turn. Though care may need to be taken to satisfactorily define what fall under minor and major actions

Update only on holidays and off times? Updating YG is a lower priority when there's more time and media of entertainment...

No

Limit player count? I really dislike this option, this is only a last-resort thing

Do this. If it bothers you, have high player turnover.

Downgrade to 2-stat system (health/Ichor and money/Essence)

The one stat only system that I believe was used in YG1 seems fine.

Remove cap growth? Players become more powerful over time simply through having more creations anyway (and this adds emphasis to artifacts)

This one can go either way for me. One possibility is to remove the cap entirely.

Keep collaborator requirements for many of the more typical projects? Probably not if sphere effects are expanded

Probably not needed.

Keep collaborator requirements for many-sphere megaprojects? Probably, regardless of changes in sphere effect

May be wise.

Change break-even factor? Currently 5, but 3 may simplify things

I'd prefer a smaller number yes.

Should there be sphere restrictions? A god with a sphere of "gods" or "game rules" would be absurd, but where is the line between acceptable and unacceptable?

The only real defining line should be "too meta". Anything else should be fair game, but more broad spheres giving less effect or whatever.

Should I patch overpowered things more slowly and with input?

I kind of want to see overpowered things wreck the game a bit. Makes for interesting play instead of just sandbox empire building.

How many gods working how hard should be allowed to incapacitate another? I probably erred on the side of caution for YG2

One

What proportion of players is needed to create player content enforced on the remainder? (e.g. ashtray factory afterlife that grabs from all races and turns them into ashtrays)

One-three, but enforcement can be overturned.

Should acting be more emphasized or should reacting be more emphasized?

Both

Should I place a delay on allowing combats to be revealed publicly if we manage to return to a 24h schedule (or some close approximation like 48h)?

Clarify please

Switch from Ticks to an explicit time unit?

This one can go either way. I'd like either one.

Is it still a god game at this point? Why not just a mage game? (I seem to sense lots of vocal support for magic stuff )

Godly Mages is a game I'd be down for, but a way to emphasize the god part is A) Acts on a cosmic scale, creation of worlds, creation of people, creation of rips in reality from which cosmic horrors pour forth etc and B) More focus on worship.

How much technological advancement stuff does everyone like anyway? Advancing from single-celledness to many-celledness is not a priority for YG players, but developing (magi)tech seems to be one

It is a priority yes. Make sure to include stuff for that.

How can I make worldbuilding an ongoing thing? It's a high-value thing but tends to slow down or stop after the first few ticks

Instead of creating entire worlds, people can only create a continent or so at a time. Make overpopulation an actual issue.

Who wants one world to build on and who wants many worlds to build on?

I'd prefer a lot of floating continents

Do we need antagonists explicitly marked as such like in Demonic Spoon's game?

Not really necessary, it's something gimmicky I came up with.

Should gods be more anthropomorphic or less? (Currently, they are very, very anthropomorphic)

Both less and more.

Demigods and godchildren: Is there any hope of allowing this that has little chance of causing the game to be shut down? I'd bet six jars of peanut butter there's more than one game somewhere here somewhen that involves bloodlines/dynasties anyway

Including this simply dilutes game focus, don't.

[Demonic Spoon]

Anthromorphic that's gods that look like humans?

...would a human who became a god be anthropomorphic?

He means the gods are very like humans on the inside, their personality and motivations etc. if not necessarily appearance or origin.

Acting vs Reacting... Could you elaborate? I like acting but I do think it tends to clutter up the thread if done excessively, which seems to kind of happen sometimes. I'm guessing you probably have to sort through all that, which makes more work for you. Also, I'm pretty sure I've noticed quite a few players who aren't very good at bolding actions to make them easily distinguishable from the rest of the fluff they write. Bolding might make it easier for you to skim things if you want, so maybe acting with stricter enforcement of bolding? Not entirely sure if I understand the question though.

Acting: More clearly labelled Pro-active, doing stuff instead of waiting for other people to do stuff and reacting to that, he's not talking about roleplaying here.

[hector13]

Spoiler: Keeping updates consistent (click to show/hide)

        Use actions/Tick system instead of allowing essentially unlimited actions? Likely makes updates of O(n) complexity rather than the current O(n²) (Leaning toward 4-8 action points/Tick with major actions costing at least 2)

If you're going to do this, I would personally tend toward the higher end of the scale. If you run out of APs, then you won't be able to react to someone messing your shit up in the middle of a Tick.

        Update only on holidays and off times? Updating YG is a lower priority when there's more time and media of entertainment...

I'm mixed on this. You need time to yourself during holidays but you'll obviously have a heavier work-load during school time... your choice I s'pose.

        Limit player count? I really dislike this option, this is only a last-resort thing

Nah.

        Downgrade to 2-stat system (health/Ichor and money/Essence)?

I actually like it the way it is, but if it makes it easier to run then I'm happy to go to two.

        Remove cap growth? Players become more powerful over time simply through having more creations anyway (and this adds emphasis to artifacts)

Not sure I like this idea, but that's just because artifacts aren't really my thing

Spoiler: Balance (click to show/hide)

        Keep collaborator requirements for many of the more typical projects? Probably not if sphere effects are expanded
        Keep collaborator requirements for many-sphere megaprojects? Probably, regardless of changes in sphere effect

Yes to both.

        Change break-even factor? Currently 5, but 3 may simplify things

If it makes it easier. Ambivalent to this one.

        Should there be sphere restrictions? A god with a sphere of "gods" or "game rules" would be absurd, but where is the line between acceptable and unacceptable?

Like DS said, only for meta things, and broader spheres should be less effective.

        Should I patch overpowered things more slowly and with input?

Probably, unless it's game breaking.

        How many gods working how hard should be allowed to incapacitate another? I probably erred on the side of caution for YG2

One god, but with very hard work.

Spoiler: Sandbox (click to show/hide)

        What proportion of players is needed to create player content enforced on the remainder? (e.g. ashtray factory afterlife that grabs from all races and turns them into ashtrays)

I would think that kind of thing should require a majority...

        Should acting be more emphasized or should reacting be more emphasized?

Acting, for the most part. It's not so fun if no-one is waiting for someone else to do things

        Should I place a delay on allowing combats to be revealed publicly if we manage to return to a 24h schedule (or some close approximation like 48h)?

Only if all sides involved in the combat are working to keep it a secret, otherwise no.

        Switch from Ticks to an explicit time unit?

Naaaah...

Spoiler: Theme (click to show/hide)

        Is it still a god game at this point? Why not just a mage game? (I seem to sense lots of vocal support for magic stuff )

I'd say so. Magic still doesn't hold a candle to divine power!

        How much technological advancement stuff does everyone like anyway? Advancing from single-celledness to many-celledness is not a priority for YG players, but developing (magi)tech seems to be one

There should be a sort of general increase in tech as time goes by, but players can guide it down particular routes if they so desire.

        How can I make worldbuilding an ongoing thing? It's a high-value thing but tends to slow down or stop after the first few ticks

No idea

        Who wants one world to build on and who wants many worlds to build on?

I'd prefer one world, but that doesn't really matter all that much.

        Do we need antagonists explicitly marked as such like in Demonic Spoon's game?

No!

        Should gods be more anthropomorphic or less? (Currently, they are very, very anthropomorphic)

Gods can be whatever they wanna be.

        Demigods and godchildren: Is there any hope of allowing this that has little chance of causing the game to be shut down? I'd bet six jars of peanut butter there's more than one game somewhere here somewhen that involves bloodlines/dynasties anyway

Don't really see why people would want to do this. In my eyes, it's not really any different from uplifting someone and saying "hey, you're pretty much all powerful now, and immortal to boot. Have a nice day!"

[gman8181]

Ahh pro-active. Gotcha. I'd like to make the weak argument that I'd probably pick up on the context clues there if I hadn't written that at such a late hour.

In that case both, I'll edit the original post later for better coherency and keeping my ideas a little more organized.

[IcyTea31]

My thoughts/comments in orange:

Spoiler: YG-lite thoughts (click to show/hide)

Keeping updates consistent:
        Use actions/Tick system instead of allowing essentially unlimited actions? Likely makes updates of O(n) complexity rather than the current O(n²) (Leaning toward 4-8 action points/Tick with major actions costing at least 2) For a smaller game, could work.
        Update only on holidays and off times? Updating YG is a lower priority when there's more time and media of entertainment... Not ideal, but I could live with it.
        Limit player count? I really dislike this option, this is only a last-resort thing There could be a more aggressive system of players being marked active/inactive to limit player count practically rather than arbitrarily.
        Downgrade to 2-stat system (health/Ichor and money/Essence)? I'd like this, actually. When fewer actions are 'free' due to massive Flux income, there'll be fewer pointless actions.
        Remove cap growth? Players become more powerful over time simply through having more creations anyway (and this adds emphasis to artifacts) Could be a good idea, mainly because creations are easier to destroy/steal/otherwise-subvert than caps.
Balance:
        Keep collaborator requirements for many of the more typical projects? Probably not if sphere effects are expanded While I was in support of collaborator requirements for a larger game, they add needless complexity to a smaller one.
        Keep collaborator requirements for many-sphere megaprojects? Probably, regardless of changes in sphere effect Ditto.
        Change break-even factor? Currently 5, but 3 may simplify things What does this mean?
        Should there be sphere restrictions? A god with a sphere of "gods" or "game rules" would be absurd, but where is the line between acceptable and unacceptable? The more specific the spheres, the more predictable the gods. I'd suggest players collect their original sphere ideas, then increase specificity by a few degrees: a god of Natural Sciences becomes that of Biology, then of Animals, then of Birds, then of Parrots.
        Should I patch overpowered things more slowly and with input? Too complicated for a lite game. Just say NO, as they used to advise us of drugs.
        How many gods working how hard should be allowed to incapacitate another? I probably erred on the side of caution for YG2 A single god could be enough, as long as they're given a chance to retaliate. Temporary incapacitation works better than outright death.
Sandbox:
        What proportion of players is needed to create player content enforced on the remainder? (e.g. ashtray factory afterlife that grabs from all races and turns them into ashtrays) Leave this to the players. The answer is "as many as is needed to convince/coerce the others"
        Should acting be more emphasized or should reacting be more emphasized? There should always be an opportunity to react, and react to the reaction, and so on.
        Should I place a delay on allowing combats to be revealed publicly if we manage to return to a 24h schedule (or some close approximation like 48h)? I don't see a point to this. The only secret things were those that the players hid, and it makes no sense that a non-consensual fight would stay secret if the target has a chance to scream, so to say.
        Switch from Ticks to an explicit time unit? Nah. Abstract time works better.
Theme:
        Is it still a god game at this point? Why not just a mage game? (I seem to sense lots of vocal support for magic stuff ) Reducing player power makes for simplicity. Could work.
        How much technological advancement stuff does everyone like anyway? Advancing from single-celledness to many-celledness is not a priority for YG players, but developing (magi)tech seems to be one This is more of a question of how independent mortals should be. No further comment.
        How can I make worldbuilding an ongoing thing? It's a high-value thing but tends to slow down or stop after the first few ticks There needs to be a reason to start over something that was considered 'done'. Nomadic gods that travel to a new Bubble every 20 Ticks? Disasters that destroy worlds?
        Who wants one world to build on and who wants many worlds to build on? Just one. With multiple ones, everyone just ignores all others.
        Do we need antagonists explicitly marked as such like in Demonic Spoon's game? Which game? No, it makes no sense to add black-and-white morality to beings that live and breathe blue-and-orange.
        Should gods be more anthropomorphic or less? (Currently, they are very, very anthropomorphic) Interesting, but unenforceable. The players are human and have human traits, thus their characters will, too.
        Demigods and godchildren: Is there any hope of allowing this that has little chance of causing the game to be shut down? I'd bet six jars of peanut butter there's more than one game somewhere here somewhen that involves bloodlines/dynasties anyway Don't discuss the actions, only the results. Making a baby wouldn't get us in trouble, but describing how it was made would.

[Demonic Spoon]

        Change break-even factor? Currently 5, but 3 may simplify things What does this mean?

How long it takes you to recoup the essence invested into something. Mostly applicable to creating worshipers.

        Do we need antagonists explicitly marked as such like in Demonic Spoon's game? Which game? No, it makes no sense to add black-and-white morality to beings that live and breathe blue-and-orange.

This one. It isn't so much a question of morality as of ensuring conflict for a more interesting game.

Honestly I could have set up my system better, but it's good enough for now.

[Kilojoule Proton]

AbstractTraitorHero: Anthropomorphic as used refers to behavior. As it is, most aren't terribly different from something along the lines of humans with physics cheat codes. (I'm fine with however this goes, but I just thought it a bit odd that acting as a thinking embodiment of one's sphere(s) wasn't the norm. Although the exaggerated maybe-not-entirely-IC craziness does get old rather quickly.)

Humans who become gods would likely demonstrate anthropomorphic behavior regardless of what form they ended up taking.

Spoiler: Keeping updates consistent: (click to show/hide)

   Use actions/Tick system instead of allowing essentially unlimited actions? Likely makes updates of O(n) complexity rather than the current O(n2) (Leaning toward 4-8 action points/Tick with major actions costing at least 2)
      Probably will but still at 4-8 points/Tick
   Update only on holidays and off times? Updating YG is a lower priority when there's more time and media of entertainment...
      Will provide advance notice of busy times  and attempt to keep contiguous skip periods under 3 full days
   Limit player count? I really dislike this option, this is only a last-resort thing
      Will probably limit player count to 25-30 with some form of automated checking for inactives since the KJP-powered approach has never worked
   Which stat system should we use?
      Probably downgrade to 1 or 2 stats (probably 2 to avert the somewhat activity-punishing 1-stat system)
   Remove cap growth? Players become more powerful over time simply through having more creations anyway (and this adds emphasis to artifacts)
      Retain cap growth or remove caps entirely

Spoiler: Balance: (click to show/hide)

   Keep collaborator requirements for many of the more typical projects? Probably not if sphere effects are expanded
      Probably unnecessary, will likely replace collaborator requirements with relatively high prices
   Keep collaborator requirements for many-sphere megaprojects? Probably, regardless of changes in sphere effect
      Possibly not barring projects that require sphere secrets/insights/abilities or hidden research from others
   Change break-even factor? Currently 5, but 3 may simplify things (Break-even factor: The cost ratio of somewhat permanent things vs. one-shot things, the number of Ticks required to recover the cost of creating worshipers, &c.)
      May change to 3 (since this is essentially a time-scaling factor)
   Should there be sphere restrictions? A god with a sphere of "gods" or "game rules" would be absurd, but where is the line between acceptable and unacceptable?
      Excessively meta spheres will be rejected, spheres will be far more significant than in YG1/2 and the difference between broad and narrow spheres will be more pronounced. Free sphere changes will be available to all over the course of the transition.
   Should I patch overpowered things more slowly and with input?
      Outright NO for gamebreakers, slower resolutions otherwise
   How many gods working how hard should be allowed to incapacitate another? I probably erred on the side of caution for YG2
      1 at a reasonable cost with room for retaliation

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   What proportion of players is needed to create player content enforced on the remainder? (e.g. ashtray factory afterlife that grabs from all races and turns them into ashtrays)
      Maybe implement consensus reality such that: a.) such projects should probably be announced publicly, b.) enough people (>~5-6? >30-40%?) saying it doesn't work that way (or work at all) shuts it down, and c.) too many people (>~20-25? >70-80%?) noïng (no'ing?) it retroactively erases said project
   Of proactivity and reacting to the actions, which was less sufficient so far?
      Proactivity from hector13
      Activity in general from Demonic Spoon, gman8181, IcyTea31
   In the past, allies have occasionally been called in in what were intended as rapid backstabbing murders when calling for help shouldn't be possible.Should I, in general place a delay on allowing combats to be revealed publicly if we manage to return to a 24h schedule (or some close approximation like 48h)?
      Probably not, screaming is like talking, which is a free action. (Allies may not arrive immediately, though.)
   Switch from Ticks to an explicit time unit?
      No, keep everyone guessing how long the last Tick was in-universe!

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   Is it still a god game at this point? Why not just a mage game? (I seem to sense lots of highly vocal support for magic stuff )
      More focus on grand cosmic/universal scale stuff, definitely!
   How much technological advancement stuff does everyone like anyway? Advancing from single-celledness to many-celledness is not a priority for YG players, but developing (magi)tech seems to be one
      Improve mortal autonomy, expand godly interactions with mortals
   How can I make worldbuilding an ongoing thing? It's a high-value thing but tends to slow down or stop after the first few ticks
      Natural disasters: More big ones and Big Ones
   Who wants one world to build on and who wants many worlds to build on?
      One world is enough, single-biome planets are less interesting
   Do we need antagonists explicitly marked as such like in Demonic Spoon's game? (This refers to antagonist-marked PCs rather than NPCs and was actually present in hidden form to a tiny extent in 0ld YG, helping to stir up conflict and paranoia every now and then)
      No explicitly antagonist-marked PCs, at any rate
   Should gods be more anthropomorphic or less? (Currently, they are very, very anthropomorphic)
      Freedom to choose
   Demigods and godchildren: Is there any hope of allowing this that has little chance of causing the game to be shut down? I'd bet six jars of peanut butter there's more than one game somewhere here somewhen that involves bloodlines/dynasties anyway
      At most reasonably child-safe flavor text for making angel-like creations ("He fell running down the heavenly stairs while carrying a hammer, and his new daughter Owlbear, a demigoddess of great wisdom and strength, popped out of the bump on his forehead!" or "She cut off some of her hair-that-is-all-rivers, wove it into a doll, and it turned into her son Pellagra, a demigod of cleanliness and longing!")

(Slow) work is in progress on both a new Lesser Book of Information and T12. I hope to post T12 by the end of the week and begin converting the YG2 materials since it seems like even the holiday option may not be enough (i.e. Tick updates monthly or so).

[Rolepgeek]

On the subject of demigods and children of gods, I think you're worrying a bit much. Sex is not a banned idea from the boards; just don't get into explicit detail. "And the Wind Goddess lay with the man, and thusly from such union were the clouds formed in the sky and the great blowing of the eastern wind echoes her speech in their courtship."

I mean, hell, look at all the stuff PrivateNomad and Co. run...

[Demonic Spoon]

Regarding the latest poll, I'd like if at least some element of the current game is preserved as I did put quite some time into it.

I'm hoping I can still make the tree idea I had. Basically phoenix trees that burst into massive firestorms periodically. They also play music because I thought that'd be cool. Then I place them at the poles of the various planets.