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[Stirk]

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1.0 Allow hindering of actions to make them more expensive at a price. Down-vote. Just leads to every action becoming secret.
1.1 Keep total Essence/other stat counts low (Pass)
3.0. Damp conflicts to allow cold wars and reduce character death while preserving conflict itself. Downvote (Character death is fun)
3.1. Make conflicts somehow relevant to everyone to increase participation. (Pass)
3.2. Focus on indirect conflict through proxies and such to reduce character death while preserving conflict itself (Downvote)
7.0. Spheres govern actions by discounts smaller than, the same as, or greater than 20% (vote with the preferred option, not with "yes") (Pass?)
7.1. Spheres govern actions by bonuses and discounts (Upvote)
7.2. Spheres govern actions through RPing bonuses (...examples?)
7.3. Spheres govern actions by both discounts and penalties (Penalties are unnecessary I think, Downvote)
9.0. Expand the equipment system (? As in what?)
9.1. Emphasize strategy and indirectness (and maybe even diplomacy!) over directly attacking gods (Downvote. Directly attacking is a strategy!)
9.2. Reduce the number of possible ways to have revivals (Upvote. Reviving circuses get annoying to everyone.)
9.3. Increase the number of possible ways to have revivals ((Downvote, see above)
9.4. Require visibility to kill (Eh, Downvote.)
11.0. Describe the smallest thing that counts as unwanted interference in your creations (Making an essence-costing change to them)
27.0. Make costs transparent (As in? Not necessary, not horrible. Pass)
27.1. Less puzzles (Downvote. More puzzles more fun~)
27.2. More world interaction (Upvote)
27.3. Disband the Council entirely (The Council is part of Ye Gods. If you think it is too much work, you can dump it. If you like it, keep it.)
27.4. Discuss pantheon changes here (Uh, er, no clue.)
27.5. Provide some juniority compensation (Hmmm...Sure, as long as they are still semi-underpowered compared to old gods [No granting them Angel armies or super-equipment])
27.6. Make the policy on metagaming explicit (Pass)

When we create dwarves, (of course someone will create dwarves.) we'll be taking from real world mythology won't we?

Dwarvers are boring. Don't see why people (*Coughyoucough*) make them every game.

[Vgray]

  You know perfectly well I only created Dwarves once.

[Stirk]

You know perfectly well I only created Dwarves once.

_{...But you would have created them twice if you had the chance.}

[Vgray]

Dwarves do happen to be a good pick for a god of Kinship yes.

[FArgHalfnr]

So, guys, what should I start ripping off first? Space Marines? Gundams? Titans?

But seriously, are we allowed to freely take from real world mythology and religion? I think that Mjolnir is kinda open source.

KJP just said mythology and religion stuff are fine in his previous post. Probably a good thing considering how much my character is inspired satanist stuff.

When we create dwarves, (of course someone will create dwarves.) we'll be taking from real world mythology won't we?

I hope whoever makes them choose those from dwarf fortress. Maybe I should do that? Ruling that kind of dwarves would really fit my character
Speaking of which, I vote for an exception to the expy rule when basing stuff on dwarf fortress, because we are on it's forum after all.

[Andres]

Dwarvers are boring. Don't see why people (*Coughyoucough*) make them every game.

I'm gonna have to go with Stirk here. Dwarves are a really vanilla race. This is a god game, why don't you be more creative?

[Stirk]

Dwarvers are boring. Don't see why people (*Coughyoucough*) make them every game.

I'm gonna have to go with Stirk here. Dwarves are a really vanilla race. This is a god game, why don't you be more creative?

....*Karate chops Andres the "Human maker"*

[TheBiggerFish]

1.0 Allow hindering of actions to make them more expensive at a price.  Needs more info.  How does this work, and more importantly how broad would minimum possible application be?
1.1 Keep total Essence/other stat counts lowEh.
3.0. Damp conflicts to allow cold wars and reduce character death while preserving conflict itself.  Having not played YG0, or even Litany, for that long, no particular comment.
3.1. Make conflicts somehow relevant to everyone to increase participation.  If it's big enough it will be relevant to everybody eventually.  Downvote.
3.2. Focus on indirect conflict through proxies and such to reduce character death while preserving conflict itself.  This requires an easy method for proxies, and that we don't just attack eachother normally.  Eh.  I don't think it'll work.
7.0. Spheres govern actions by discounts smaller than, the same as, or greater than 20% (vote with the preferred option, not with "yes")
7.1. Spheres govern actions by bonuses and discounts
7.2. Spheres govern actions through RPing bonuses
7.3. Spheres govern actions by both discounts and penalties
9.0. Expand the equipment system.  What equipment system?
9.1. Emphasize strategy and indirectness (and maybe even diplomacy!) over directly attacking gods.  Make it an option in addition to direct attack, but leave the field open for punching people.
9.2. Reduce the number of possible ways to have revivals
9.3. Increase the number of possible ways to have revivals
9.4. Require visibility to kill.  No, but do leave evidence.
11.0. Describe the smallest thing that counts as unwanted interference in your creations.  Anything that costs essence, OR WOULD REWRITE THE DESCRIPTION.
27.0. Make costs transparent.  Yes.
27.1. Less puzzles.  No basis against which to judge.
27.2. More world interaction.  As an option, sure.  Not as a requirement.
27.3. Disband the Council entirely.  Mmmmmaaaaaaybe.  Do not block pantheons.
27.4. Discuss pantheon changes here
27.5. Provide some juniority compensation.  Enough to get people to an equal playing field.
27.6. Make the policy on metagaming explicit. If your god can't see the meta, yes, but if they can, allow them to meta.  Of course, a small crack in the fourth wall will probably expand rapidly so be careful with that.

[Andres]

Spoiler: Survey issues to upvote/downvote (click to show/hide)

1.0 Allow hindering of actions to make them more expensive at a price. Downvote. Creation is not something that should be suppressed.
1.1 Keep total Essence/other stat counts low. ? ? ?
3.0. Damp conflicts to allow cold wars and reduce character death while preserving conflict itself. Downvote. Cold wars aren't much better than hot wars. They still require time, energy, and resources dealing with them and it instils a great deal of paranoia.
3.1. Make conflicts somehow relevant to everyone to increase participation. Downvote. Conflicts are already a very relevant part of Ye Gods. Too relevant, even.
3.2. Focus on indirect conflict through proxies and such to reduce character death while preserving conflict itself. Upvote. Cold wars aren't fun but hot wars using our mortal armies are.
7.0. Spheres govern actions by discounts smaller than, the same as, or greater than 20% (vote with the preferred option, not with "yes"). Greater than.
7.1. Spheres govern actions by bonuses and discounts. Upvote.
7.2. Spheres govern actions through RPing bonuses. Downvote.
7.3. Spheres govern actions by both discounts and penalties. Downvote if penalties apply to non-aligned spheres, upvote if penalties only apply to opposite spheres.
9.0. Expand the equipment system. ? ? ?
9.1. Emphasize strategy and indirectness (and maybe even diplomacy!) over directly attacking gods. Downvote. Players should be able to tackle problems however they want.
9.2. Reduce the number of possible ways to have revivals. Downvote....
9.3. Increase the number of possible ways to have revivals. Downvote. The current methods of revival are adequate.
9.4. Require visibility to kill. Upvote.
11.0. Describe the smallest thing that counts as unwanted interference in your creations. Downvote.
27.0. Make costs transparent. Upvote.
27.1. Less puzzles. Upvote.
27.2. More world interaction. Upvote.
27.3. Disband the Council entirely. Downvote.
27.4. Discuss pantheon changes here. ? ? ?
27.5. Provide some juniority compensation. Downvote.
27.6. Make the policy on metagaming explicit. Upvote.

1.1 So we have 10/10 Essence instead of 20/20 Essence or we only have Essence and no Power or Crux?
9.0 What equipment system?
27.4 This doesn't seem like a yes/no question...

Am I allowed to be the god of Arstotzka? The country is based on another forum game and I'm not sure if it falls under the expy rule.

TheBiggerFish, please spoiler that.

[Vgray]

Spoiler: Survey issues to upvote/downvote (click to show/hide)

1.0 Allow hindering of actions to make them more expensive at a price. Downvote. Creation is not something that should be suppressed.
1.1 Keep total Essence/other stat counts low. ? ? ?
3.0. Damp conflicts to allow cold wars and reduce character death while preserving conflict itself. Downvote. Cold wars aren't much better than hot wars. They still require time, energy, and resources dealing with them and it instils a great deal of paranoia.
3.1. Make conflicts somehow relevant to everyone to increase participation. Downvote. Conflicts are already a very relevant part of Ye Gods. Too relevant, even.
3.2. Focus on indirect conflict through proxies and such to reduce character death while preserving conflict itself. Upvote. Cold wars aren't fun but hot wars using our mortal armies are.
7.0. Spheres govern actions by discounts smaller than, the same as, or greater than 20% (vote with the preferred option, not with "yes"). Greater than.
7.1. Spheres govern actions by bonuses and discounts. Upvote.
7.2. Spheres govern actions through RPing bonuses. Downvote.
7.3. Spheres govern actions by both discounts and penalties. Downvote if penalties apply to non-aligned spheres, upvote if penalties only apply to opposite spheres.
9.0. Expand the equipment system. ? ? ?
9.1. Emphasize strategy and indirectness (and maybe even diplomacy!) over directly attacking gods. Downvote. Players should be able to tackle problems however they want.
9.2. Reduce the number of possible ways to have revivals. Downvote....
9.3. Increase the number of possible ways to have revivals. Downvote. The current methods of revival are adequate.
9.4. Require visibility to kill. Upvote.
11.0. Describe the smallest thing that counts as unwanted interference in your creations. Downvote.
27.0. Make costs transparent. Upvote.
27.1. Less puzzles. Upvote.
27.2. More world interaction. Upvote.
27.3. Disband the Council entirely. Downvote.
27.4. Discuss pantheon changes here. ? ? ?
27.5. Provide some juniority compensation. Downvote.
27.6. Make the policy on metagaming explicit. Upvote.

1.1 So we have 10/10 Essence instead of 20/20 Essence or we only have Essence and no Power or Crux?
9.0 What equipment system?
27.4 This doesn't seem like a yes/no question...

Am I allowed to be the god of Arstotzka? The country is based on another forum game and I'm not sure if it falls under the expy rule.

TheBiggerFish, please spoiler that.

Disregarding the strangeness of that, you would actually be stealing from a game called Papers Please

[Andres]

Disregarding the strangeness of that, you would actually be stealing from a game called Papers Please

Actually, I'd be stealing from Arms Race who was stealing from Papers Please. Arms Race's Arstotzka has surprisingly little to do with the one from the game.

[Stirk]

Disregarding the strangeness of that, you would actually be stealing from a game called Papers Please

Actually, I'd be stealing from Arms Race who was stealing from Papers Please. Arms Race's Arstotzka has surprisingly little to do with the one from the game.

Now can I say my expy parade thing?

[micelus]

1.0 Allow hindering of actions to make them more expensive at a price (Nay!)
1.1 Keep total Essence/other stat counts low (Abstain!)
3.0. Damp conflicts to allow cold wars and reduce character death while preserving conflict itself (Abstain!)
3.1. Make conflicts somehow relevant to everyone to increase participation (Nay! The God of Comedy shouldn't be artificially forced to take sides with the forces of Plastic and Paper! Aye if you mean worshipers/temples getting hit in the crossfire!)
3.2. Focus on indirect conflict through proxies and such to reduce character death while preserving conflict itself (Abstain! These should emerge naturally regardless!)
7.0. Spheres govern actions by discounts smaller than, the same as, or greater than 20%
7.1. Spheres govern actions by bonuses and discounts
7.2. Spheres govern actions through RPing bonuses (Aye!)
7.3. Spheres govern actions by both discounts and penalties (Aye!)
9.0. Expand the equipment system (Aye!)
9.1. Emphasize strategy and indirectness (and maybe even diplomacy!) over directly attacking gods (Aye! Should occur regardless!)
9.2. Reduce the number of possible ways to have revivals (Aye!)
9.3. Increase the number of possible ways to have revivals (Nay)
9.4. Require visibility to kill (Nay!)
11.0. Describe the smallest thing that counts as unwanted interference in your creations (More info required!)
27.0. Make costs transparent  (Aye!)
27.1. Less puzzles (Nay!)
27.2. More world interaction (Aye!)
27.3. Disband the Council entirely (AYE!)
27.4. Discuss pantheon changes here (Pantheons should evolve naturally!)
27.5. Provide some juniority compensation (Aye; enough to let them do something important but not enough to challenge a well-established deity!)
27.6. Make the policy on metagaming explicit (Aye!)

[FArgHalfnr]

Spoiler: Survey issues to upvote/downvote (click to show/hide)

1.0 Allow hindering of actions to make them more expensive at a price Depends on whenever or not it only applies to actions taken against oneself/their creation/their allies (or pantheon) and their creation. If it does, upvote. Otherwise downvote.
1.1 Keep total Essence/other stat counts low Downvote if it means less than three stats. Or maybe you mean the numbers for each? Need more clarification.
3.0. Damp conflicts to allow cold wars and reduce character death while preserving conflict itself Cold wars sounds fun. Upvote.
3.1. Make conflicts somehow relevant to everyone to increase participation Depends how. Maybe lower the worship quality of gods who do nothing about a conflict their followers would like them to do something about? Need more clarification here too.
3.2. Focus on indirect conflict through proxies and such to reduce character death while preserving conflict itself Not sure if needed. Abstain
7.0. Spheres govern actions by discounts smaller than, the same as, or greater than 20% (vote with the preferred option, not with "yes") Don't know enough about the game's balance and mechanics to make a decision. Abstain.
7.1. Spheres govern actions by bonuses and discounts Upvote
7.2. Spheres govern actions through RPing bonuses Upvote
7.3. Spheres govern actions by both discounts and penalties Downvote
9.0. Expand the equipment system What system?
9.1. Emphasize strategy and indirectness (and maybe even diplomacy!) over directly attacking gods Upvote if not by too much. I'd expect that to happen naturally though.
9.2. Reduce the number of possible ways to have revivals Abstain
9.3. Increase the number of possible ways to have revivals Abstain
9.4. Require visibility to kill Downvote
11.0. Describe the smallest thing that counts as unwanted interference in your creations Any change that might affect the functioning of a civilization/organization/cult (regardless of how important that change might be), affect one or more high ranked mortals, affect the public opinion of mortals or alter the body/mind/soul of either anything more than a token minority of the group in question or one or more high ranked members. All of these without the expressed consent of their creator off course.
27.0. Make costs transparent Upvote
27.1. Less puzzles Abstain
27.2. More world interaction Same as Thebiggerfish
27.3. Disband the Council entirely Upvote
27.4. Discuss pantheon changes here Pantheons should essentially as miniature councils. Common goal for each member = No longer useless in most cases, less members = No longer omnipotent. Not sure if proposals would be necessary within them, unless maybe the pantheon happened to be pretty big. Secret pantheon votes, meetings and other related activities should definitively be possible. Also I don't think there should be a cap for the amount of pantheons. That kind of alliance making tends to be pretty unpredictable, so there's no real way to know how many factions will appear for sure until it actually happens.
27.5. Provide some juniority compensation Upvote for a somewhat limited compensation. Enough to make new players relevant, but not enough to render progression pointless. Maybe a temporary bonus to worship quality explained by the fact that people are exited because there's a new god?
27.6. Make the policy on metagaming explicit Upvote. Let's not repeat what happened to litany

At first I didn't even plan on making some sort of devil as my character, I was just going to make an evil genius, basically an evil version of my character from litany. I took a pentagram as a symbol at the last second when I realized I forgot to choose one, and then everything went downhill from here

Edit: answered a forgotten question.

[Kilojoule Proton]

Vgray: Necromancy added/claimed, contracts considered to be sufficiently similar to Necromancy's current slot (1/2 free schools used)
IcyTea31: Interdisciplinary magic should be possible, yes (likely facilitated by but not dependent on metamagic)
Partial affinity should be possible given the wide scope of some of the schools.
School creators/adopters do get some control over what is and isn't possible with the school and some minor influence over who can and can't use the school.
The two free schools can be claimed later once the game is in progress.

Rolepgeek: Akriurgy added to stack with technomancy (mirrors Geomancy/Geoturgy somehow), would you prefer to stack one of enchanting or tempomancy (mirrors wrenchmancy) instead?

FArgHalfnr: OOC2 players list updated
Pact Binding now seems to stack closer to Creepymancy/Invocation (mirroring Enchanting). Would you like to switch around?
As for it being filed under Musical before, the previous description of contacting and linking to a god matched the properties of Musical magic and the concept of Thaumaturgy more.

micelus: Whimsy/Glummer added, stacks with ??.? and mirrors Telekinesis (1/2 free schools used)

TheBiggerFish: Should I add Technomancy or Mancimancy or switch Chaomancy out for both?

Andres: Provided that you realize that expies do not necessarily resemble their originals in power, technology, or abilities, yes. Importing C'thulhu without applicable investments, for example, will likely end up creating only a vague small-scale fear spirit/thing. (Also, do try to get permission from the current creator if possible.)