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[Sofaspud]

I've searched the forum (as best I can..?), I've perused the wiki, I'm still stumped.  Anyone got any idea what tile dimensions are in feet?

I'm leaning towards assuming they're 4x4x8, but if anyone has a better suggestion I'd love to hear it.

(Or if there's an accurate number somewhere, heh.)

[PTTG??]

Sweet potatoes on a stick, here it goes again. Every once in a while, somebody mentions it, and the arguments rage long into the night.

Anyway, I think they are 1 yard square and 2 tall, with a variance of about 8 inches either way. That said, there is no definite size for a square, and toady one has never actual stated the size of these tiles as far as I know. Thus, the controversy.

[ November 28, 2007: Message edited by: PTTG?? ]

[Sofaspud]

Oh.  Uh... sorry?  Didn't realize it was flamebait.  I swear I searched and didn't find anything!

Anyway, 3x3x6 sounds reasonable enough, too.  I'm playing around with Sketchup and for model building it's useful to know the 'standard' dimensions.

[DR]

One tile is large enough that two dragons can occupy it if one kneels down, but not so large that more than two puppies can.

[PTTG??]

Perhaps I should have included a   somewhere. I did not mean to chastise... anyway, yeah, I think on average a square comes out to around 3.5 feet square by 6.5 feet tall, given that these are dwarves. That does raise a good point though, because I think the floors (which are a separate part of the cell) are 1 foot tall; despite the fact that a 1 foot thick segment of sand probably can't hold up a thatched-roof cottage, let alone a castle wall...

Also, the sketch-up model sounds neat. Hope it turns out.

[Markham]

I like to think the tiles are 7 feet tall, meaning each water level number is a foot of water.  Dwarves are short (size of 5 (feet?)), so they can't easily walk in water 4 feet or deeper.  This thought, however, is torn to shreds when a giraffe/elephant/titan/colossus happens to wander into my fortress.  And then dodges my war dog into a pond and immediately drowns.

Also, maybe its due to my childhood exposure to LEGOs, I also see one tile having the same dimensions as a 1x1 LEGO block.  In fact, now that I think about it, if you go 7x7x7 LEGO units, you could build a LEGO model of your fortress quite accurately, since there'd be enough height clearance for a lego figure (5 tall is the minimum clearence) and enough width for them to lie down in one tile.

[ November 28, 2007: Message edited by: Markham ]

[Core Xii]

DF tiles are some sort of tricky quantum spaces that can hold an infinite number of any entity, so long as all but one of them lays down. They can also hold any number of inanimate objects without penalty.

[Arkan15]

They're large enough to hold two things.

Doesn't matter how large they are. Two mice, two dwarves, two elephants, you can't have three of anything in a DF tile.

[mport2004]

ive had more than two creatures on a square i trapped about 13 dogs in a double door that was not pet openable

[Zurai]

quote:Originally posted by Arkan15:
<STRONG>They're large enough to hold two things.

Doesn't matter how large they are. Two mice, two dwarves, two elephants, you can't have three of anything in a DF tile.</STRONG>

Yes, you can. You can have an infinite number of creatures, as long as only one is standing.

[Fieari]

Tiles are large enough to facilitate an infinite number of dragons, but small enough that two cats passing by will force one of them to lie down to get through.

[Malenfant]

Their dimensions are defined by their purpose of course!

The perfect example would be the stone stockpile vs garbage dump, a stone stockpile contains just enough space to neatly fit a single stone whilst a garbage pile can fit an infinite number.

This of course raises some interesting questions, how is it that c (the speed of an unburdened dwarf) never varies despite the massive difference in size of the tiles? The only possible answer is that Armok speeds up and slows down time relative to the observer, I call this, The General Theory of Armokicity.

[Tahin]

Or maybe they're meant to be a specific tile size, but due to quirks in game logic, they can be effectively stretched ad infinitum?

[sphr]

why not just choose whatever you want?  DF world is very integralized due to simulation reasons.  Trying to map it directly to "realistic" dimensions sounds futile as most are meant to be symbolic rather than "realistic"  (hence 1 square fits all... almost).  I think it is safe to exercise what I'll call artistic interpretation.

Just so related that I'm using sketchup to generate some standard "tiles" to help in recording some building designs (not entire fort.... at least not yet.  level management is possible but tricky in SketchUp).

If you are interested, here is the link to some of the stuff I made public.  FYI, I'm using 2mx2mx2m for each tile, where floors reside infinitely thin planes. (yeah.. *unrealistic*)

[ December 02, 2007: Message edited by: sphr ]

[SquashMonster]

Math says each tile is 51 meters across.

According to the wiki, the DF world is made up of 256x256 regions. Each region is composed of 16x16 blocks 48x48 tiles each.  That makes for 256*48*16 = 196608 tiles from top to bottom.

This is enough map for DF to go from pole to equator once.  That's one fourth the circumference of the earth.  Divide one fourth the circumference of the earth by the number of tiles in that distance, and we get tiles that are about 51 meters across.

No wonder you can fit so many dragons.

(I always assumed they were about two meters in every direction, myself.)