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FruitBird

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Gay animals?
« on: August 10, 2015, 06:31:52 pm »

So I have a pair of pigs that I took with me on embark that have been off in their own little paddock for a while now to let them breed for meat. But its been forever and I've had no delicious little porkers from them. I thought it was a bug until I read somewhere that animals can be gay as well. Is this true? If so I may as well send my pigs to the knackers if I can't breed them.
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Re: Gay animals?
« Reply #1 on: August 10, 2015, 07:54:38 pm »

Yep, livestock can be gay - and also suffer from commitment issues.

The commitment issues one is a bug. You can mess around with the ORIENTATION tags of creatures to fix it. Modest mod also comes with the fix.
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Re: Gay animals?
« Reply #2 on: August 10, 2015, 07:56:30 pm »

I have one male and one female, any way of telling which one is, as my grandma so delicately puts it "a friend of Dorathy's" so I can get rid of it and find a new partner?
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Re: Gay animals?
« Reply #3 on: August 10, 2015, 08:00:07 pm »

If you have Dwarf Therapist, I believe it states sexuality. Though neither of the animals may be gay. They may just have commitment issues.
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Re: Gay animals?
« Reply #4 on: August 11, 2015, 02:03:18 am »

Dwarf Therapist shows different symbols for homo- bi- and hetero-sexual creatures. Asexual (which also includes marriage commitment issues) are shown as the base gender grayed out (sexual creatures are shown in pink and blue, respectively).
Generally, I bring 3 of each gender on embark to almost ensure I get breeding going. When I went for 2 of each I had a fair number of cases where at least all of one gender were reproductive duds.
There is also a DFHack command called "gaydar" which is supposed to be somewhat buggy. It has no documentation, but you select the creature to examine in DF and type the command in the DFHack console (I haven't tried it with animals myself, as I usually use DT).
Finally, I usually bring birds on embark rather than pigs, since birds produce eggs as well.

Note that you can butcher the problematic one and buy a new partner from the dwarven caravan. If the caravan doesn't bring any, you can request the next one to bring some via the trad liaison. If I understand it correctly, each tick of increased payment guarantees one unit of the desired goods on the next caravan. Since caravan creatures can be dud as well, I'd order 3 (i.e. increase payment 3 steps) of each failed gender. I don't think there is an easy way to find out whether caravan creatures are reproductive before you buy them, but money means nothing in DF.
Also, immigrants can bring animals with them, so you may luck out and get a partner for your functional porker that way.
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« Reply #5 on: August 11, 2015, 10:03:25 am »

If you are using DFHack, fix-ster fert only:pig will make your gay animals bi.
The modest mod changes will only take effect on a new game. Button also didn't eliminate gay animals, just reduced the chance.
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Re: Gay animals?
« Reply #6 on: August 12, 2015, 08:03:40 pm »

I add the orientation tag to everything I can.

I don't like having breeding problems because I embarked with two sheep and one of them ain't interested.
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Re: Gay animals?
« Reply #7 on: August 14, 2015, 02:33:00 am »

So it turned out my boar was asexual. He's off to the knackers.
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Re: Gay animals?
« Reply #8 on: August 14, 2015, 04:45:00 am »

At least you got some pork out of him...
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