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Yes, but. . . (comment how, below)

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Total Members Voted: 6

Voting closed: August 31, 2016, 04:23:26 pm

[~Neri]

Not the other way around. You'll get a drastically larger effect from occultism and if you fuck up, not only you, but everyone in a several mile range will likely receive a backlash. Hence more of a fist fight.

Arcanism if you fuck up, at worst your head will explode into flesh eating butterflies.

[Insanegame27]

There's a comforting thought.

[Prophet]

So if I want to fling earth spears at things I don't need earth before hand? I just conjure it when I cast the spell or do I need to conjure earth with a spell?

[Maegil]

Not the other way around. You'll get a drastically larger effect from occultism and if you fuck up, not only you, but everyone in a several mile range will likely receive a backlash. Hence more of a fist fight.

Arcanism if you fuck up, at worst your head will explode into flesh eating butterflies.

Then my analogy holds - a fistfight is nowhere as dangerous as a nerd with a book.

[~Neri]

So if I want to fling earth spears at things I don't need earth before hand? I just conjure it when I cast the spell or do I need to conjure earth with a spell?

If you're in a zone with lots of earth you don't need earth. It's already there. If you're in a zone with not much earth. You'd need to convince the universe Why exactly you should have earth when there isn't much in the area or you'd need to convince the universe why certain refined materials count as earth. Such as metal. In practice this would mean the roll would be a bit harder, possibly a bonus with good rp.

Not the other way around. You'll get a drastically larger effect from occultism and if you fuck up, not only you, but everyone in a several mile range will likely receive a backlash. Hence more of a fist fight.

Arcanism if you fuck up, at worst your head will explode into flesh eating butterflies.

Then my analogy holds - a fistfight is nowhere as dangerous as a nerd with a book.

Have you ever had a fistfight with a universe?

[Insanegame27]

Have you ever heard an important debate? Nerds with Books solve more issues than bar brawls do.

[Maegil]

Actually yes, and physics literally broke my hand. Ever hear of Oppenheimer? I never heard of him getting into any fist fights...

[~Neri]

The specific metaphor Really doesn't matter. The general concept does. There's just a level of severity.

[Prophet]

How would you rp arguing with the universe? 

[~Neri]

You aren't arguing with a conscious entity. You're trying to convince Reality that something Is and any evidence to the contrary simply does not exist. Magic is about perception after all.

[Prophet]

So you kinda have to convince yourself that it is what you want it to be instead of the what it really is?

[~Neri]

Functionally. However even going "instead of the what it really is" would harm your capacity to convince yourself of "what you want it to be" cause it implies that reality is solid and you're trying to push something onto it rather than what you desire simply Being. It isn't a "I reject your reality and substitute my own" cause doing that would imply an already existing Reality. It's a "This is Reality. This is how it always will be and how it always has been." Obviously magic is a lot easier for those who aren't the most grounded in reality. Such as the creative and the insane.

[vkiNm]

No no, see, you don't understand.

You're not trying to convince yourself anything, you know what Is. You're refusing everyone else's reality and brute force your own upon them.

There is no other reality but your own, anything or anyone that says otherwise gets a teethful of fist.

A Magi does not see the world as everyone else does, they see the world as how they want to see and force their will upon it. Some would say it's crazy, some would say it's delusional.

Basically, if Donald Trump was a Magi, he'd be a damned powerful one. Reality just doesn't work on that man.

[~Neri]

It's not even refusing everyone else's reality. The concept that there's another objective reality doesn't even come up. It doesn't factor in. The only reality is Yours.

[Prophet]

So if I want to rp it just act like it is the way I want it to be. Like if I want to do earth spears and there isn't any earth just act like there is because magi me thinks there is earth?