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Re: Am I to be alone forever?
« Reply #15 on: August 12, 2015, 05:01:05 pm »

Can always try an online dating site. For the socially challenged, it's one way to meet others like yourself who also share your interests.
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Re: Am I to be alone forever?
« Reply #16 on: August 14, 2015, 08:12:55 am »

I've seen friends of mine using Tinder for this purpose, although you need a good picture to get those first contacts
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Re: Am I to be alone forever?
« Reply #17 on: September 05, 2015, 10:18:55 pm »

I just realized that I am 25 about to be 26 soon, 7 years just blew by. I barely know anyone where I live, especially when it comes to the female persuasion. At this point, I feel like I'll never find anyone, let alone someone that will wanna deal with me in a relationship. I am pretty much at the point of giving up ever finding anyone.
Try the internet. Specifically, I would say try on sites other than dating sites. Try on sites that cater to hobbies and things you like.

I've been with my girlfriend for 8 years, living together for 7 or so of that.  As someone who has been in a relationship longer than most American marriages last, I can tell you that you NEED someone who has a similar set of interests as you, and a similar mentality. They don't have to be identical and you don't have to agree on everything, but you're a nerdy, introspective guy who spends a lot of time playing video games and fucking around on the net, you need to meet a girl who not only understands that but is probably much the same way.

And dating sites are full of people who will lie in order to create a relationship. Including you. We do crazy, self destructive, short sighted things when we're infatuated, and the sad part is that that infatuation is temporary. You gotta be able to love them even when all their flaws start showing up after the rose tinted glasses of new love finally fall away.

As for hobbies, I do Pen and paper rpg's and table top games but all the female participants are taken up. I dont know if I could just hang out at a bar I heard is pretty good for singles without drinking since I hate the taste of alcohol and I don't want to find something I dont taste the alcohol in it because I dont want to be a drunkard.

I am also afraid if I become drunk, I would be the angry drunk or the fighting drunk. So I am kinda out of options there.
If YOU don't want to hang out at a bar, then fucking don't. Because any girl who you might pick up would be the type of person who WOULD like to hang out there.  Don't try to meet people while doing things you dislike because you'll meet people who like doing those things and your interests won't coincide.

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Re: Am I to be alone forever?
« Reply #18 on: September 06, 2015, 10:16:16 pm »

As for hobbies, I do Pen and paper rpg's and table top games but all the female participants are taken up. I dont know if I could just hang out at a bar I heard is pretty good for singles without drinking since I hate the taste of alcohol and I don't want to find something I dont taste the alcohol in it because I dont want to be a drunkard.

I am also afraid if I become drunk, I would be the angry drunk or the fighting drunk. So I am kinda out of options there.
If YOU don't want to hang out at a bar, then fucking don't. Because any girl who you might pick up would be the type of person who WOULD like to hang out there.  Don't try to meet people while doing things you dislike because you'll meet people who like doing those things and your interests won't coincide.

Greatest advice in a while. If you're scared of alcohol at all, it's not your avenue. But it is kind of like a useful icebreaker if you don't prefer online long-distance relationships...
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Re: Am I to be alone forever?
« Reply #19 on: September 12, 2015, 06:51:10 pm »

I was socially awkward all through high school...so I know where you are coming from. Then at some point I became a superstar. It made me think about what was different about me from before.

First its going to take hard work and consistency to succeed in anything, including finding a chickee chick (or dude, whatever)

Whats do I think makes the difference?

Confidence. It makes you better at everything. And girls (all people to some extent) are programmed to like confidence. When true humble confidence is not around, they will take cockiness instead, but definitely prefer the first. The male/female thing developed certain proclivities like this because she would be vulnerable while pregnant(and while child is young) for a long time and needs to feel safe enough to do that. It doesn't currently hold true, as women do not need men to safely raise babies, but thats the root of that attraction to confidence.

No body likes doing the mental work of being around someone that is not confident. Its such a drag to hang with someone and feel sorry for them because they are not confident, and they are looking at you for reassurance every minute.

Confidence is when you are sure you can handle whatever, but are not threatened or bothered by being told a better way or the right way to do something. Cocky freaks out when corrected.

Know you are a cool in your own way, and unique and why you would make an excellent match for some girl. the more confident you are, the more confident you will feel, and it builds upon itself once you get the ball started. So one of two things are true for you now. You have skills, mentality, and most importantly you like of yourself, to allow yourself to be confident, and just by realizing this you are able to start to do so.  Or you just cant be confident because you feel you know this or that is wrong with you.

Hopefully you just need to decided to be confident. Deciding this, will literally make you better at everything. You can allow yourself to be confident because actually doing it will make you more effective. It may be simple as understanding that truth. If thats the case your done, be confident, go out and about and it will happen. Is being confident scary, yes, you are putting yourself out there and might take a tumble here and there.

Its actually a crutch, a coping mechanism to not be confident. It shields you from defeat, "See i knew i couldn't do it"  feels better than i thought i could, but i am now wrong and defeated. Feels better to be right and defeated.

If you feel something is wrong and cannot allow yourself that confidence and thus make yourself even LESS effective and amplifying what you dont like about yourself to you and other people. Its illogical. Lack of confidence is worse than whatever you dont like about yourself. but one option is to do the hard work to fix it. everything is fixable. But its hard and its much easier to pretend you cant fix it.

learned helplessness is a physiological trait of all humans. It has a place in nature, if you tried to get this really good fruit, and a bear lived there and you failed, you wasted tons of energy for no yeild. Thus it is important not to waste your time again for that food source.  But now, its a curse. We are so lucky to live in a way that we CAN fail, over and over and its fine....it is how we have advanced so far as humans, because we had the cushion to fail over and over and not die of starvation. your posts says to me you may be suffering from learned helplessness with meeting people. At least a little. its not 100% yet because you wrote this post, but then pattern is right there in your words.  you are basically saying, I have failed up until now, I fear i may fail forever (unspoken-should i just give up or keep trying i am out of ideas)  But watch out for learned helplessness.   

Also, online dating sites are great because are so many people looking. Just DONT lie, DONT find a picture from 5 years ago when you were superbuff or otherwise more desirable than you are now. Be honest about what you like, how much you would or would not respect a partner. say here i am flaws and all. Then, what hits you get will be good ones and you will feel no need to hide. in fact the first dates will YOU deciding and trying to root out if they lied, cause you know you are all upfront. The balance of power shifts. That very fact may make you feel less on edge.

And dont be an ass, respect everyone the same, including women. Women get a raw deal in our society. If there is a girl in a "mans job" she must be better than most of the men doing it. Exceptional at it actually, or she wouldnt be there. They are expected to wear makeup and shoes and dress cute and all this stuff. Feel lucky you are not expected to do all that our society. However hard confidence is for you, its ten times harder for a girl. so respect them, they dig it. acknowledge the silly sexism of society and dont be a dick.


You could always move to Los angeles or something. I got fired in West Virginia and was on unemployment, not finding work, and saved it and planed and used that time to move to Los Angeles. Something about moving to a new place is very liberating, and gives you a little more swagger and life experience to draw from and learn you are capable of surviving and gives another reason for confidence. But my mental confidence shift happened when i failed out of art school. I learned how to "liquid dance" or "pop" and it got me into shape and taught me a lot about learning something very very foreign to me.

That being said, getting healthy an into shape is a win-win. I started lifting weights when I was 31 and it doesnt take much, as long as you are consistant, to get results that make you healthier and more confident that you may be desirable for female. Its not wholly true, because looks are not the primary attractor for girls over 24 or so, depending on the girl, they grow out of that sometimes way earlier. If your under 270 lbs and clean you meet the criteria for 95% of mentally mature girls, and thats what you really want anyhow. But if it makes you feel "sexyer" for lack of a better term, then you will be sexyier because:confidence is everything.

And you would be a good catch. I bet you would not cheat on a girl and just be there for her since you know what lonely is. You would probably realy really emotionally care for a girl....and that is what they need. Confidence is what they want. Emotional support is what we all need. Alot a girls have been with dudes that didnt give them emotional support, and useing "Nice guys" for the emotional support of the relationship while being "girlfriends" with some emotionally absent jerk is a thing girls do. It is the cause of the misnomer "the friend zone" because "nice" guys allow themselves to be emotionally used. but thats another rant all together! lol forgot i said all that.

hopefully all this will get you started, i am almost fatigued from writing so i must bow out or get sloppy and incomprehensible, but to sum up.

Be confident, if you cant allow yourself that, you already know what you need to change. Research and do the hard work and effort( risk failing and starting over thus wasting that effort and start over) to improve that aspect of yourself. Then be confident, pick and choose what ladies are right for you. 

One last thing, if you are in a situation and have the chance to talk to a girl, you have nothing to lose, you didnt know her before, and if you fail you still dont know her. You lost NOTHING and gained social xp. everytime there is a random girl you are guaranteed to gain something from trying to talk.  Dont try to bed her,lol,  dont put that pressure on yourself. Just try to talk an meet her. and if you dont get very far , you gained xp. and if she happen to just come out of a relationship with some dumbass jerkwad, she may be attracted to someone treating her human and being friendly and she might be ready to try to hang out with and see what respectful smart guys are like. cause you are part of the smart crowd if you enjoy the challenge that is dwarf fortress.

TLDR; if this is something to skip to the TLDR for, then you are not willing to put in the effort to make significant change and are just posting for social proof that you should give up.

Actual  TLDR; Be confident, you like dwarf fortress, you must be smart and are a good catch.
« Last Edit: September 12, 2015, 07:11:00 pm by funkydwarf »
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Re: Am I to be alone forever?
« Reply #20 on: September 13, 2015, 09:02:03 pm »

What Funky said about confidence is very true, and probably a goes hand-in-hand with the thought that you should be doing what you really want to do, and in do that you'll probably find a significant other. The real trick is to be happy with life and yourself first. That's a cruel and unfortunate truth, but it's true.
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Re: Am I to be alone forever?
« Reply #21 on: September 15, 2015, 03:21:03 pm »

Don't try dating sites. Believe me, those are pretty much scams for lonely men. There's 9 males for every female in any of those sites, it's a waste of time and money. You can try free apps like tinder and the like, but stay away from payed sites.
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Re: Am I to be alone forever?
« Reply #22 on: September 15, 2015, 05:32:03 pm »

No one you ever meet will ever fully understand you no matter how close you become and even if they could there is no real way to be sure you aren't actually the only person who is REALLY sapient in the entirety of the universe.

So yes, you will in fact be alone forever.

Also: BFEL should stay away from Life Advice
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« Reply #23 on: September 16, 2015, 05:00:06 am »

Both my brothers got married using online dating sites.
Successfully and with little regret.
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Re: Am I to be alone forever?
« Reply #24 on: October 07, 2015, 10:18:47 pm »

I know that feeling. If you can find a guy at your job to go drinking with, there's a good chance of finding someone out there who you might just like.

Just don't drink too heavily. Buzzed is where you want to stay. Drinking more than that isn't going to reduce your shyness further, at least, not in a helpful way, and of course, there are the side effects from drinking heavily.

It's not easy finding a group of friends without some kind of introduction, as people tend to associate in cliques, small groups. These groups commingle and share members. You can spider along these connections and find people who you are looking for. The larger your initial circle, the less intermediate steps.

Small world networks and the such. In principle, you can find anyone with six jumps along the social groups, but most people don't have the stamina for that. At least not leafs like me.

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« Reply #25 on: October 30, 2015, 12:02:14 am »

There were times i felt the same thing that you are feeling at your age, and trust me, you are not alone. (there are women out there thinking the exact same thing as you too, its just a matter of getting yourself in front of them)

15 years on and im now married with children, and that comes with its own unique set of worries.

Grass always 'seems' to be greener on the other side of the hill.

As for my suggestion though, I couldn't recommend anything stronger than travelling. When staying in hostels, you tend to meet some incredible people who you can bond quickly with over some of the most simple things. Its a really easy place to meet people as much of the time you are all there for similar reasons and as you are all daytripping out to various places, its easy to invite them to daytrip somewhere with you, or even just chat over dinner about places to [and not to] go. All makes for really easy conversation.

Also, at the same time you get to see some incredible sights and experience some really unique things that you will carry with you for the rest of your life.

Other than that, many of my friends have had great success from online dating websites.

As its been said though, key is to get yourself out there, everything else will come naturally !

Goodluck !
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Re: Am I to be alone forever?
« Reply #26 on: November 07, 2015, 02:11:51 am »




Hopefully you just need to decided to be confident. Deciding this, will literally make you better at everything. You can allow yourself to be confident because actually doing it will make you more effective. It may be simple as understanding that truth. If thats the case your done, be confident, go out and about and it will happen. Is being confident scary, yes, you are putting yourself out there and might take a tumble here and there.

Its actually a crutch, a coping mechanism to not be confident. It shields you from defeat, "See i knew i couldn't do it"  feels better than i thought i could, but i am now wrong and defeated. Feels better to be right and defeated.

If you feel something is wrong and cannot allow yourself that confidence and thus make yourself even LESS effective and amplifying what you dont like about yourself to you and other people. Its illogical. Lack of confidence is worse than whatever you dont like about yourself. but one option is to do the hard work to fix it. everything is fixable. But its hard and its much easier to pretend you cant fix it.


And dont be an ass, respect everyone the same, including women. Women get a raw deal in our society. If there is a girl in a "mans job" she must be better than most of the men doing it. Exceptional at it actually, or she wouldnt be there. They are expected to wear makeup and shoes and dress cute and all this stuff. Feel lucky you are not expected to do all that our society. However hard confidence is for you, its ten times harder for a girl. so respect them, they dig it. acknowledge the silly sexism of society and dont be a dick.


You could always move to Los angeles or something. I got fired in West Virginia and was on unemployment, not finding work, and saved it and planed and used that time to move to Los Angeles. Something about moving to a new place is very liberating, and gives you a little more swagger and life experience to draw from and learn you are capable of surviving and gives another reason for confidence. But my mental confidence shift happened when i failed out of art school. I learned how to "liquid dance" or "pop" and it got me into shape and taught me a lot about learning something very very foreign to me.

That being said, getting healthy an into shape is a win-win. I started lifting weights when I was 31 and it doesnt take much, as long as you are consistant, to get results that make you healthier and more confident that you may be desirable for female. Its not wholly true, because looks are not the primary attractor for girls over 24 or so, depending on the girl, they grow out of that sometimes way earlier. If your under 270 lbs and clean you meet the criteria for 95% of mentally mature girls, and thats what you really want anyhow. But if it makes you feel "sexyer" for lack of a better term, then you will be sexyier because:confidence is everything.




One last thing, if you are in a situation and have the chance to talk to a girl, you have nothing to lose, you didnt know her before, and if you fail you still dont know her. You lost NOTHING and gained social xp. everytime there is a random girl you are guaranteed to gain something from trying to talk.  Dont try to bed her,lol,  dont put that pressure on yourself. Just try to talk an meet her. and if you dont get very far , you gained xp. and if she happen to just come out of a relationship with some dumbass jerkwad, she may be attracted to someone treating her human and being friendly and she might be ready to try to hang out with and see what respectful smart guys are like. cause you are part of the smart crowd if you enjoy the challenge that is dwarf fortress.

TLDR; if this is something to skip to the TLDR for, then you are not willing to put in the effort to make significant change and are just posting for social proof that you should give up.

Actual  TLDR; Be confident, you like dwarf fortress, you must be smart and are a good catch.

Back in high school and my early years of college, I went for Autotech and machining classes and we had a few female classmates in them. I always treated them like they belonged there and helped them when they needed (maybe a little more but I kinda want to be the proverbial white knight/hero to the rescue type). I loved to see women in those fields but I want to be with someone who understands what I like to do for a living. I do want to as well go shopping with someone to see her try on various clothes and comment on what styles and colors look good on her.

I am terrified of rejection. I am so scared of it I dont even talk. I have been working on it but it's nearly on a phobia level, much like a unchecked fear. I am worried of trying something new, like doing ballroom dancing, that I cant go unless I have someone there so if I do get rejected I dont feel like I should just leave since I dont belong there.

I do have a problem in I am a very physical guy. Not like in sex but in the if she cuddled with me, that would be the height of the day/night. I would adore to be able to have someone in my lap that is interested in me and I could talk to for hours on end, but that means one, I need to be able to find someone that would be interested in me and two, someone that would like that long of physical contact.

I know looks are not everything but I like tiny women because all the small women I met tend to be stronger and also tend to be more gentle from all my experience.

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