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Captain Goatse

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Re: NEARLY DOUBLE FPS!!!
« Reply #30 on: November 30, 2007, 01:55:00 pm »

So, having many unused stone lying about causes lag? I am currently churning a loto of stone crafts, got two catapults chucking rocks over the map edge, but still no improvements (apart for two master operators and two master stone crafters)...
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Re: NEARLY DOUBLE FPS!!!
« Reply #31 on: November 30, 2007, 02:17:00 pm »

Sometimes setting CPU affinity to one core helps, sometimes it doesn't matter.  The biggest effect has been having a smaller map size, and of course having less dwarves.  I'm on a magma map now that has run faster than my last one, main difference is that I don't have a brook.  But I've had fast maps with a brook and no magma, too.
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Re: NEARLY DOUBLE FPS!!!
« Reply #32 on: December 01, 2007, 12:30:00 am »

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ati2evxx = vid driver
cli = vid driver control panel
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ati2evxx - its ati hot key poller(you dont see driver in manager)
You can disable both services loading(they aren`t necessary for anything) in control panel->admin->services, instead of killing them every time. But all you get is minor memory and CPU economy not any fps increase(unless you have really outdated system).

So the real way to get double fps is either optimize game or get x2 better processor(or two).

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Re: NEARLY DOUBLE FPS!!!
« Reply #33 on: December 01, 2007, 07:44:00 am »

Magma is my biggest FPS hog, but I just cannot live without it. Maybe the calderas have too much magma and this causes lag? Are there any locations with less magma, possibly hidden down under (like former version?)
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Re: NEARLY DOUBLE FPS!!!
« Reply #34 on: December 01, 2007, 11:11:00 am »

part of it is the magma creatures milling around inside. I killed them off and got a fairly decent chunk of FPS back.

it was still slower then a non-magma map, but not intolerably so.

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Captain Goatse

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Re: NEARLY DOUBLE FPS!!!
« Reply #35 on: December 01, 2007, 01:18:00 pm »

I got just three imps and a magma man, I do not think they are causing lag. And I have no loving idea how to kill them!
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Re: NEARLY DOUBLE FPS!!!
« Reply #36 on: December 02, 2007, 06:15:00 pm »

quote:
Originally posted by Tormy:
<STRONG>

I am..shocked. My record must be like 10 hours.
  :D</STRONG>


I had a 98se server up and running for over two years with zero downtime. Then one day I woke up in the middle of the night for some unknown reason. I looked over at the machine and saw a blue flash of light and a puff of smoke. It decided to really, really die.

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Re: NEARLY DOUBLE FPS!!!
« Reply #37 on: December 02, 2007, 06:30:00 pm »

quote:
Originally posted by Nadaka:
<STRONG>

I had a 98se server up and running for over two years with zero downtime. Then one day I woke up in the middle of the night for some unknown reason. I looked over at the machine and saw a blue flash of light and a puff of smoke. It decided to really, really die.</STRONG>


Magic.
Ancient magic you witnessed that day.

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Re: NEARLY DOUBLE FPS!!!
« Reply #38 on: December 03, 2007, 06:44:00 pm »

quote:
Originally posted by Greiger:
<STRONG>Ulib Dwarfguy has been unhappy lately. He is worried you haven't been getting enough sleep.</STRONG>
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Re: NEARLY DOUBLE FPS!!!
« Reply #39 on: December 04, 2007, 08:58:00 am »

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System idle process: 458 hours?
Man are you insane?

:eek:



I thought it was normal.

At any rate, I'm afraid there isn't much we can do to improve performance of Dwarf Fortress. By all means, close all other programs that need a lot of CPU and memory, but terminating system services doesn't sound like a good idea. After all, those several processor cycles you save by closing explorer translate into maybe half of a frame in DF.

herrbdog, if killing explorer doubled your FPS, then you probably have some serious problems with your system.

I should probably mention, that if your DF map doesn't have much weather, setting WEATHER:OFF in the init.txt really helps FPS without affecting gameplay at all.

As for me, I've been running DF fairly successfully on Vista laptop with a 1.8GHz AMD Turion X2. Vista doesn't suck as much as I expected it to, nor is it very slow when it comes to CPU (just don't use Aero under ANY circumstances), and while I can't boast about having multiple cores each strong enough to split atoms in twain, I can harness some decent framerates: 30-40 FPS on a map of default size going up to 50 with weather turned off; with a small map it's usually at full speed all the time, even with a very populated fort.

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Re: NEARLY DOUBLE FPS!!!
« Reply #40 on: December 04, 2007, 09:08:00 am »

Sorry for the double post, but...
quote:
Magma is my biggest FPS hog, but I just cannot live without it. Maybe the calderas have too much magma and this causes lag? Are there any locations with less magma, possibly hidden down under (like former version?)

Flow causes lag. You should try bringing all fluids to some sort of equilibrium. If you drained some magma, drain some more until it's levels are more or less even in all reservoirs. Also, stop running pumps (it's okay for the windmills/waterwheels to keep turning and for pumps to pump air though)
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Re: NEARLY DOUBLE FPS!!!
« Reply #41 on: December 04, 2007, 10:30:00 am »

quote:
Originally posted by MyBeardIsOnFire:
<STRONG>Sorry for the double post, but...

Flow causes lag. You should try bringing all fluids to some sort of equilibrium. If you drained some magma, drain some more until it's levels are more or less even in all reservoirs. Also, stop running pumps (it's okay for the windmills/waterwheels to keep turning and for pumps to pump air though)</STRONG>

That "sounds" great, but I can dam rivers, have zero flow, turn off temp, weather, vsync and everything else... and I still gain 0FPS. my "fast" FPS is 6. There are times I stare blankly at it at 0.. then go back to doing work hoping that I can distract myself long enough for a dwarf to do something noteworthy. All of those on or off makes no change for me.

I'm pretty sure its the lack of video card in the machine I've been on since September though. All I've got with me is a laptop with a Radeon Xpress 1100  :(.  Every time I watch someone else's video with 75FPS it just makes me yearn for my GF7600 back home in my good machine, or atleast the 5500 that I have in an older  one. Anything!

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Re: NEARLY DOUBLE FPS!!!
« Reply #42 on: December 04, 2007, 11:23:00 am »

I would assume that flow calculations are done all the time regardless of whether you've discovered any bodies of liquid or not, right?
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Re: NEARLY DOUBLE FPS!!!
« Reply #43 on: December 04, 2007, 03:00:00 pm »

Back on the "double FPS" topic... Today I tryied to change the settings from "normal" to "high" in the init file, and it resulted in some quite heavy lag. I switched it back to "normal"...
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Re: NEARLY DOUBLE FPS!!!
« Reply #44 on: December 04, 2007, 04:44:00 pm »

quote:
Originally posted by Eagle of Fire:
<STRONG>Back on the "double FPS" topic... Today I tryied to change the settings from "normal" to "high" in the init file, and it resulted in some quite heavy lag. I switched it back to "normal"...</STRONG>

I've tried it at "above_normal" with similar results.

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