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Author Topic: HelMoo- A Mud that Bay12 would appreciate  (Read 9427 times)

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Re: HelMoo- A Mud that Bay12 would appreciate
« Reply #15 on: July 26, 2015, 05:18:34 pm »

So, I may have just inadvertently caused a player wipe. Well, EAZY did, but I found the bugs related to what EAZY did that results in this happening.

Edit: Senate meeting in a few hours to discuss.

Edit the second: MAKE SURE YOU HAVE AN ACCOUNT.

When are these events happening?
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« Reply #16 on: July 26, 2015, 05:41:54 pm »

Right now.
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« Reply #17 on: July 26, 2015, 07:08:14 pm »

what is going on?
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« Reply #18 on: July 26, 2015, 08:14:35 pm »

what is going on?

Infernomoo is player wiping. I discovered a very fun bug, and that steamrolled into needing to fix everything regarding xp and all characters have worked xps.

Edit: I believe the wipe has started, as I tried to log on and it simply replies with yes.
« Last Edit: July 27, 2015, 07:25:28 pm by beorn080 »
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« Reply #19 on: July 27, 2015, 08:34:09 pm »

Edit: I believe the wipe has started, as I tried to log on and it simply replies with yes.

Yep. I imagine the odds of this being done before a reasonable time tonight to be very low though.
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« Reply #20 on: July 27, 2015, 09:09:09 pm »

what is going on?

Infernomoo is player wiping. I discovered a very fun bug, and that steamrolled into needing to fix everything regarding xp and all characters have worked xps.

Edit: I believe the wipe has started, as I tried to log on and it simply replies with yes.

Yeah, there is a message at the end of the log-in prompt. Earlier it was shorter, they recently added a "we don't know how long this will take" line, too.
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Re: HelMoo- A Mud that Bay12 would appreciate
« Reply #21 on: July 27, 2015, 09:14:30 pm »

Does inferno keep the its carebearmoo limited pvp measures up? What about the grinding? I tried getting into it ages ago after old hellmoo exploded, tried to get back in, got bored immediately and left. I liked when there were about 40 people playing and everyone thought breaking into apartments and fucking people up (figuratively and literally) was what made hellmoo fun, altough its nice that there are people willing to keep developing it.
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Re: HelMoo- A Mud that Bay12 would appreciate
« Reply #22 on: July 27, 2015, 09:29:23 pm »

Does inferno keep the its carebearmoo limited pvp measures up?

No, thats HellMOO. Inferno pretty much lets you do whatever so long as it doesn't break established griefing rules, iirc (mostly intended to protect N tags).

What about the grinding? I tried getting into it ages ago after old hellmoo exploded, tried to get back in, got bored immediately and left.

Its better in Inferno, iirc.

I liked when there were about 40 people playing and everyone thought breaking into apartments and fucking people up (figuratively and literally) was what made hellmoo fun, altough its nice that there are people willing to keep developing it.

Yes sir! That was the biggest reason I didn't really want to come back after I got burned out on it was when there was only like 8 people online. This really is a blast when you have 40 players online regularly.


edit: "UPDATE: 10:06 PM 7/27/2015 EST
We've encountered some unexpected issues, are still do not have an ETA until we're back up and running. We're doing our best to get everything functional again, but it may take a bit longer. Thank you for your interest everyone!"
« Last Edit: July 27, 2015, 09:37:50 pm by Android »
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« Reply #23 on: July 27, 2015, 10:05:57 pm »

Does inferno keep the its carebearmoo limited pvp measures up?

No, thats HellMOO. Inferno pretty much lets you do whatever so long as it doesn't break established griefing rules, iirc (mostly intended to protect N tags).

What about the grinding? I tried getting into it ages ago after old hellmoo exploded, tried to get back in, got bored immediately and left.

Its better in Inferno, iirc.

I liked when there were about 40 people playing and everyone thought breaking into apartments and fucking people up (figuratively and literally) was what made hellmoo fun, altough its nice that there are people willing to keep developing it.

Yes sir! That was the biggest reason I didn't really want to come back after I got burned out on it was when there was only like 8 people online. This really is a blast when you have 40 players online regularly.


edit: "UPDATE: 10:06 PM 7/27/2015 EST
We've encountered some unexpected issues, are still do not have an ETA until we're back up and running. We're doing our best to get everything functional again, but it may take a bit longer. Thank you for your interest everyone!"

Yeah, the playerbase on Inferno is a bit lower than HellMOO (by a decent amount) but I think it appears to be slowly gaining popularity again. If nobody plays it because of the population, it'll never get bigger!
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« Reply #24 on: July 27, 2015, 10:13:20 pm »

So, I may have just inadvertently caused a player wipe. Well, EAZY did, but I found the bugs related to what EAZY did that results in this happening.

Interesting, what was the bug? My favourite thing about Hellmoo was always the unintentional stuff that could pop up, like when crowbar's trap was cleared out with use of a plane assembly kit and a portal gun.
It was rather simple, at least for my part of the exploit. And it can't happen again, as they are getting rid of one part of it, so I don't mind sharing.

Simply put. Double xp weekend + xp given from rerolling. Eazy's part in it was completely fucking up the experience system that let that bug go through.
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« Reply #25 on: July 27, 2015, 10:20:19 pm »

Sadly no. What happened was it was taking your effective xp, which under Eazy's changes was the journal/achievement/job type xp, and doubled that. It still got rid of the old effective xp, which was garnered from slaughtering things. So, it only doubled what didn't go away each reroll.
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« Reply #26 on: July 27, 2015, 11:15:46 pm »

Also, part of the reason for wiping had to do with a completely broken economy, something to do with savings bonds and people with insane amounts of cash on hand. They are also fixing that in the wipe, as well.
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« Reply #27 on: July 28, 2015, 01:16:46 am »

Huh. If everyone's going back to a clean slate on Inferno, I might pick it back up again for a little while. There's something to be said for a game that has established hierarchies... but it's more fun to carve out one of your own without being at a severe disadvantage in skills, stats, cash or gear.
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« Reply #28 on: July 28, 2015, 01:22:58 am »

Huh. If everyone's going back to a clean slate on Inferno, I might pick it back up again for a little while. There's something to be said for a game that has established hierarchies... but it's more fun to carve out one of your own without being at a severe disadvantage in skills, stats, cash or gear.

Do it! There are at least a few of us playing right now. Well, not right right now, since the MOO is down.

Update for everyone, the MOO is not coming back up tonight, but probably will be tomorrow. Sadness and despair!
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« Reply #29 on: July 28, 2015, 04:12:53 pm »

Huh. If everyone's going back to a clean slate on Inferno, I might pick it back up again for a little while. There's something to be said for a game that has established hierarchies... but it's more fun to carve out one of your own without being at a severe disadvantage in skills, stats, cash or gear.

Do it! There are at least a few of us playing right now. Well, not right right now, since the MOO is down.

Update for everyone, the MOO is not coming back up tonight, but probably will be tomorrow. Sadness and despair!

UPDATE: 5:01 PM 7/28/2015 EST
We're still working on the pwipe, we've run into a lot of unexpected errors and are still doing our best to get us back online as soon as possible.


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