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[StagnantSoul]

For once, everything Paradox is doing with this game seems good.

[Draignean]

As I read I'm nodding up and down smiling, up until...

FTL: What works in a game such as Sword of the Stars, with its turn-based gameplay, small maps of usually no more than 3-6 empires, and 1-on-1 wars breaks down completely in a Stellaris game

Scrub, that is in no way why it works in SOTS. SOTS usually bumps around 6 to 8 factions, and you're either damn lucky or playing a clusters map if you're involved only in 1-on-1 wars. SOTS works because it's turn based, yes, but that's the only thing you got right. It's also got interception mechanics, meaningful sensor ranges, and space stations that aren't shite. You don't get to talk down to SOTS' combat system, not for a long time yet.

[Sindain]

I'm very happy to see these changes. I've already been playing on hyperlanes only for quite some time, for pretty much all the reasons they listed.

[Mephansteras]

I'm very happy to see these changes. I've already been playing on hyperlanes only for quite some time, for pretty much all the reasons they listed.

Same here.

[Cruxador]

I think the previous devlog wasn't talked about in this thread before, so about that one (instead of the current border mechanics, upgradeable starports to claim systems) it's a shame they already did the megastructure stuff. Habitats, ringworlds, and dyson spheres would make far more sense as further upgrades of the starports than their current implementation.

The FTL stuff all seems fine to me, although the use of jump drives seems tedious and generally pointless.

[umiman]

Finally. It's so annoying trying to mod out all the FTL options and all the late game ones too.

[Culise]

I hope they at least leave the possibility of modeling warp drives, probably by using jump drives with modified cooldowns while disabling all hyperlanes.  I'd be sad if they broke the Star Trek mod now that they're also adding wormholes in. 

[forsaken1111]

As I read I'm nodding up and down smiling, up until...

FTL: What works in a game such as Sword of the Stars, with its turn-based gameplay, small maps of usually no more than 3-6 empires, and 1-on-1 wars breaks down completely in a Stellaris game

Scrub, that is in no way why it works in SOTS. SOTS usually bumps around 6 to 8 factions, and you're either damn lucky or playing a clusters map if you're involved only in 1-on-1 wars. SOTS works because it's turn based, yes, but that's the only thing you got right. It's also got interception mechanics, meaningful sensor ranges, and space stations that aren't shite. You don't get to talk down to SOTS' combat system, not for a long time yet.

Literally nothing was mentioned about the SOTS combat system... they said what worked well in SOTS does not work in Stellaris and they mentioned it falls apart in Stellaris' combat system

[EnigmaticHat]

I mean their comparison still pretty much works... Stellaris can have 30 factions in the same game.  If two factions each with subjects and allies go to war, it would be pretty plausible to have an 8 faction war with each faction having between it all 3 starter types.

Edit: While I'm posting here: is it worth coming back to this game yet?  And which DLC is considered "essential"?

[Teneb]

No one mentioned it, but borders are changing too.

At any rate, I'm really liking where the game is going.

[Ultimuh]

Edit: While I'm posting here: is it worth coming back to this game yet?  And which DLC is considered "essential"?

I would say so, but if you are unsure then wait for the next sale.
As for DLCs.. I would say Utopia and Synthetic Dawn are probably the most essential ones.

The Plantoids pack adds a new phenotype (a new portrait/city set/spaceships class or whatever you may call it).
So if you enjoy variety, then get it, if you want. But it doesn't add any gameplay mechanics.

[Draignean]

As I read I'm nodding up and down smiling, up until...

FTL: What works in a game such as Sword of the Stars, with its turn-based gameplay, small maps of usually no more than 3-6 empires, and 1-on-1 wars breaks down completely in a Stellaris game

Scrub, that is in no way why it works in SOTS. SOTS usually bumps around 6 to 8 factions, and you're either damn lucky or playing a clusters map if you're involved only in 1-on-1 wars. SOTS works because it's turn based, yes, but that's the only thing you got right. It's also got interception mechanics, meaningful sensor ranges, and space stations that aren't shite. You don't get to talk down to SOTS' combat system, not for a long time yet.

Literally nothing was mentioned about the SOTS combat system... they said what worked well in SOTS does not work in Stellaris and they mentioned it falls apart in Stellaris' combat system

Strategic combat, not the tactical side. I'm a bit defensive of SOTS, but the way they wrote it makes it sound like SOTS strategic combat takes place on an intrinsically smaller scale and less involved scale than Stellaris. Which really isn't true.

The core point, that real time SOTS would be a fucking nightmare, is absolutely true. I just don't agree with the critique that 'small maps' and limited numbers of enemy empires is a valid reason, and it sounds like they're sort of making a back-pedal defense of 'well, this system doesn't work- but the reason it doesn't work is that we're too AWESOME!'

[umiman]

Edit: While I'm posting here: is it worth coming back to this game yet?  And which DLC is considered "essential"?

I would say so, but if you are unsure then wait for the next sale.
As for DLCs.. I would say Utopia and Synthetic Dawn are probably the most essential ones.

The Plantoids pack adds a new phenotype (a new portrait/city set/spaceships class or whatever you may call it).
So if you enjoy variety, then get it, if you want. But it doesn't add any gameplay mechanics.

The game and most DLC is on sale at Humble right now.

[EnigmaticHat]

I already own Stellaris, I just stopped playing shortly after release and I'm wondering if this is a good time to check it out again.  My original playthrough was a very individualist democracy which was kind of ruined by the fact that ethics drift was glitched to cause pops to be homogeneous (undoing any weakness that playstyle would have had).  Then it crashed infinitely with no solution. 

[ZeroGravitas]

I mean their comparison still pretty much works... Stellaris can have 30 factions in the same game.  If two factions each with subjects and allies go to war, it would be pretty plausible to have an 8 faction war with each faction having between it all 3 starter types.

Edit: While I'm posting here: is it worth coming back to this game yet?  And which DLC is considered "essential"?

Not worth coming back to yet. Maybe after the next patch that overhauls borders and FTL and apparently war and maybe some other stuff.

In the current version the gameplay is just way too thin and insanely repetitive.