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[AlStar]

Sorta funny - I was using jump engines to explore some systems that were cut off by a xenophobe fallen empire. Managed to find the "Ransomeer" node. The resulting pirate base established itself in the sector next to the fallen empire. Turns out that they're pissy about anything that's next to them. Their retaliation seems like a tad overkill for ~500 fleet strength, though.

[Telgin]

That's hilarious.  I've read a lot of funny things related to the xenophobe FE doing that, like how it used to be possible to trade bordering systems to the AI so that they'd get attacked by the FE, or how newly spawned empires can sometimes spawn there and get their teeth kicked in repeatedly by the FE with no way to stop it.

[pisskop]

Every once in a while an FE will go ahead and murder a dimensional horror or two, too.

Who says theyre all bad?

[Eric Blank]

One ate my civ leader recently. Got an event saying my leader would invariably die of a genetic disease, but I could call on a FE to maybe help, so I chose the machine FE next door, who had previously given a health booster to the entire civ (which didn't hurt us in any way.) They took in my leader for treatment, and that was the end of her for me, and the heir prince took over

[Telgin]

Huh, is that a new event?  I've played almost 1800 hours and never seen it, though I have seen the one about the inoculations from the machine FE.  I don't think I've ever gotten a good result from that one so I always say no.

One of many events I know to skip now, like the terraforming equipment I complained about earlier, or the twinkling stars or adrift events.  I wish I could skip the odd factory event too since it feels like 80% of the time it eats a pop.

Most colony events suck to encounter.

[E. Albright]

I'd say I usually get a positive outcome from inoculation events, and since that's permanent but the negative is temporary, I've always been willing to give it a chance.

[AlStar]

Speaking of "events that I didn't realize have a positive outcome option" - I recently raised three pre-sapient species all around the same time.

As expected, two of them got the "adjusting to their new life is scary, -5% work efficiency;" which is all I've ever gotten.

But one of them got "things are going great!" Never actually had that happen before.

I actually rather like the Odd Factory - sure, it'll eat a couple pops like 90% of the time, but it churns out a lot of alloy each month, and it's a lowest-level job, so even starting robot pops and slaves can man it.

[pisskop]

I know a lot of events have really cool outcomes if you have specific civics or government styles.  Even specific traits on specific leaders who are assigned to do this one job

[pisskop]

Sometimes we're the ones oppressing ourselves

Spoiler: pic (click to show/hide)

For context:  We took an alpine planet, which we have poor habitability on.  We have genetic ascention.  The leader caste I installed modified themselves to have alpine habitability.  Now theyre terrorizing themselves because the only main-pops I have on that planet are them.

[Telgin]

That event is one I think I hate more than just about any other.  It has so many janky things that can break like that, ends up giving you weird pops you don't want, and the only way to totally be sure you don't see it is to just not research genetic engineering if you have low habitability planets.

That's what I do these days.  It's particularly painful because I usually play Life-Seeded empires, so I have 0% habitability until I get the World Shaper ascension perk and terraform everything.  It can literally be 100 years into the game before I research genetic engineering or take an ascension path because of that.  Almost certainly suboptimal, but Life-Seeded is a very suboptimal origin anyway and I don't really power game.

Technically, the event only fires if you have pops with low happiness and low habitability, so I gambled on it in a recent game since my pops were happy.  That was fine until the Manifesti faction event fired, which promptly tanked a few pops' happiness to 0% because they were making insane demands for their faction, and this event fired very soon after.     I used to hate the Manifesti thing almost as much, but at least they fixed it so that the faction actually goes away eventually now.

[Rolan7]

Huh.  I don't think I've ever seen the Manifesti.  Probably because I almost never use entertainers?  I tend to use clerks instead, or occasionally priests or duelists.  Usually I'm running something egalitarian such that everyone's happy enough anyway, with at *least* social welfare.

[Telgin]

Is that how the Manifesti faction works?  I just assumed it was a random thing every non-gestalt empire had at some point in the game, because I think I've seen it literally every game since it was introduced.

Anyway, I hoped that running social welfare would save me from the event, and it did until the Manifesti ruined those pops' happiness to low faction approval.  A lot of the Manifesti faction demands literally can't be fulfilled.

[Haspen]

Game year must be 2210 or later, you must be at peace, you need to have Entertainers. Gestalts, Fanatic Purifiers and Oppressive Autocrats cannot get Manifestis.

[AlStar]

Just finished a war that involved, literally, the entire galaxy. The game actually hung for a good 45 seconds at the declaration of victory before it popped up this mess:


That's something like 70-odd refugee pops fleeing into my territory.

[Telgin]

70 pops is a lot of alloys or research you can be generating.

That was always one of the best parts of playing xenophiles, or at least accepting all refugees.  As the galaxy burns, you just get stronger.  Of course, by the time you're facing the crisis or war in heaven, you've already won or lost, but sometimes genocidal empires can end up sending you pops earlier in the game this way.