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Author Topic: Stellaris: Paradox Interactive IN SPACE  (Read 1749879 times)

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Re: Stellaris: Paradox Interactive IN SPACE
« Reply #7275 on: November 09, 2018, 01:55:06 am »

edit: I get the joke, that kind of thing is funny exactly once and then just in the way.

Agreed. Should have been written as like an anomaly or something.
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« Reply #7276 on: November 09, 2018, 02:19:54 pm »

edit: I get the joke, that kind of thing is funny exactly once and then just in the way.

Agreed. Should have been written as like an anomaly or something.

It would have made a hilarious anomaly if written along the lines of the one about how Earth looks like it died of pollution, but that's obviously ridiculous since who would be that myopic? Maybe let us find the last lootbox as a special project or something.

Heck, I'd even think it was funny as the reason one of the precursor civilizations died: an apocalyptic war over lootboxes.
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Re: Stellaris: Paradox Interactive IN SPACE
« Reply #7277 on: November 09, 2018, 05:26:51 pm »

Breaks the verisimilitude of being the policy dictator of a star empire tbh

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« Reply #7278 on: November 15, 2018, 10:07:58 am »

New dev Diary, containing the slave market and a note that unity ambitions are becoming free content instead of paid content... Rip apocalypse I guess.

Slave market seems very simple. You put slaves up for a fixed price based on traits. People can buy them for a fixed price based on traits. Not much else to the diary. Since I guess they need three things per diary minimum, Mandates are going to be one of the things that are changing in this update, along with everything else.

Not sure if how a fixed price is going to properly represent the value of the slave. Seems like it'll probably be too cheap or too expensive to bother with, but we'll see.
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« Reply #7279 on: November 15, 2018, 10:13:37 am »

It will probably make them very situational early game, but then again by the time the galactic market is founded most empires might have enough energy income to afford slaves if they want them.  It looks vaguely like energy income will be higher in general in 2.2, especially with trade value, but who knows how that will get balanced in the end.

I can't see myself ever using the slave market, unless they do decide to allow robotic (non synthetic) pops to be sold there.  It would give roboticists something to do if your current population is maxed out or you otherwise don't need the robots, and could help expand if you're short on pops during an expansionary phase.

Then again, I might finally be tempted to play a real good-goody federation builder empire that also buys slaves to free them.  I've never played an evil empire or even one that was hostile, but I've always played as very xenophobic in Stellaris for some reason.

Otherwise, it's cool that driven assimilators can buy slaves to assimilate, and I hope they do change marauders so that they put your abducted pops up for sale on the market.
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« Reply #7280 on: November 15, 2018, 10:18:40 am »

There was some mention of refugees potentially ending up on the market, but I'm not sure why marauders would automatically send slaves to market. Somebody needs to work those ice mines!

The galactic slave market seems bigger to me in terms of fleshing out the world and providing expansion options outside of conquest, including the changes to migration treaties. Gives you a way to colonize different worlds earlier through buying appropriate pops for the climate you want to colonize.
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« Reply #7281 on: November 15, 2018, 10:39:09 am »

Slave market seems handy. Looks like a simple way to recoup some war expenses, and if you're like me playing mad scientist with your slaves pops you sometimes need to clear them out to make room for more and different kinds.

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« Reply #7282 on: November 15, 2018, 11:04:02 am »

Will at the very least let you do stupid shit like the achievements for having many different species on a single planet, or having most of your pops be slaves.

If the AI actively buys them, then you could have some serious fun by genemodding a LW-style "locust" pop who is useless but reproduces insanely fast and tanks happiness in planets.
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Re: Stellaris: Paradox Interactive IN SPACE
« Reply #7283 on: November 15, 2018, 11:08:58 am »

As someone who likes to have as many different species in their empire as possible, I love the idea of buying slaves and freeing them.
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« Reply #7284 on: November 15, 2018, 11:16:31 am »

Will at the very least let you do stupid shit like the achievements for having many different species on a single planet, or having most of your pops be slaves.

If the AI actively buys them, then you could have some serious fun by genemodding a LW-style "locust" pop who is useless but reproduces insanely fast and tanks happiness in planets.
You can already do that with refugees, I gene modded the Big Stupid Jellyfish to be unlikable, contrary, and incapable of feeding itself then kicked them all out.

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« Reply #7285 on: November 15, 2018, 11:27:21 am »

If the AI actively buys them, then you could have some serious fun by genemodding a LW-style "locust" pop who is useless but reproduces insanely fast and tanks happiness in planets.

Interestingly, they'd be cheaper, so perhaps the AI would be even more likely to buy them!

That said, it'll depend on the specific calculations of jobs/output. Low stratum pops may be valuable just by filling low stratum slots even if they're inefficient at it, since high-stratum pops won't take low-stratum jobs.
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Re: Stellaris: Paradox Interactive IN SPACE
« Reply #7286 on: November 15, 2018, 11:36:27 am »

That's how you get a roach race running all your fast food joints.
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Re: Stellaris: Paradox Interactive IN SPACE
« Reply #7287 on: November 15, 2018, 11:41:56 am »

Will at the very least let you do stupid shit like the achievements for having many different species on a single planet, or having most of your pops be slaves.

If the AI actively buys them, then you could have some serious fun by genemodding a LW-style "locust" pop who is useless but reproduces insanely fast and tanks happiness in planets.
You can already do that with refugees, I gene modded the Big Stupid Jellyfish to be unlikable, contrary, and incapable of feeding itself then kicked them all out.
Yeah, but with the market you can finally get them into xenophobic empires that won't take immigrants or refugees!
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« Reply #7288 on: November 15, 2018, 02:18:05 pm »

I have to wonder...how good does the full Biological ascension path become when combined with xenos compatibility?  +2 trait picks combined with the ability to eventually breed populations with all the ascendancy traits looks quite strong.
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Re: Stellaris: Paradox Interactive IN SPACE
« Reply #7289 on: November 15, 2018, 02:21:37 pm »

I have to wonder...how good does the full Biological ascension path become when combined with xenos compatibility?  +2 trait picks combined with the ability to eventually breed populations with all the ascendancy traits looks quite strong.
It might be what finally puts biological on a similar level with the other two (though psi is probably still the strongest).
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