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[Yourmaster]

's six good enough to start?

[Spiderking50]

most humans don't believe in your existence. As a result, one of your main goals is to keep them in the dark.

"Monster" races only? Or are elves and dwarves are keeping up the masquerade too?

Actually, does that even work? Some of our races can reasonably pas for human, but when a bunch of dwarves are selling iron at the market, how are people not going to notice? Plus, we have a couple multi-race factions. When the human shows up at the application desk for a "we accept anybody" faction, how exactly are they going to break the news to him? Are they expected to kill him he he declines after finding out? That's going to be difficult for a mutli-race faction like the Seekers, who's stated goal is to end all fighting.

How is that going to work?

You bring up a few points I've been struggling with for the last few days. Thats why I brought it up. This is the best explination I could think of:

Werewolves and Vamps and elves can all pass for humans with a  simple glamour spell. Same for Teiflings. Dwarves however would need something a bit stronger. In fact, some weres and vamps wont even need them.

As for humans, the majority don't know you exist. So not a whole lot apply to join your factions. Unless they have magical blood in them and are spell casters of some sort. Which in Blackwater, is a fair amount.

I may give it until tomorrow to start.

[Yourmaster]

Ah, I guess I'll write some lore for werepyers and see if it's friendly to this game.

The werepyer is an odd combination, rarely accepted in circles of vampires or werewolves, leaving them outcasts. They are created when a person born a werewolf is turned by a vampire, or a turned werewolf for less than two weeks is also turned by a vampire. Though this is mostly an accident, there is at least some amount of werepyers in the world who purposely did this. These mostly come from the east than the west. They can transform into their true forms at will during the night. They dislike the day, as it seems much lighter out to them, to the point where it impairs vision. They can survive off meat or blood, but can't eat other things. Doing such will cause them to throw up.

[Hiddenleafguy]

Screw glamer spells. All tieflings need is a hat and a cloak, unless you are unlucky enough to get ram horns.

[Tack]

Ah, contemporary fantasy eh?

[Spiderking50]

No the tech is definately not contemporary. There will some early guns and maybe some steam power, but thats really as far as the tech goes. Everything, as far as most players are concerned, is done with magic.

[Tack]

What is 'Dwarven Town' minor faction?

[Spiderking50]

The dwarven town minor faction is mostly an area within Blackwater. Its an area, warded by magic to keep humans out, that most of the dwarves live in. Several areas have wards like this that allow open interaction between the magical races. Dwarven town is a collection of dwarven homes, iron works, mines, and taverns. Lots and lots of taverns.

Warded areas include:
The druid park
The dark forest
Dwarven town
Hell's hole
Diagon Alley
The Magus Academy
The Red Hand's Nest

The Church of the Day also has some monster wards, but they aren't strong enough to keep out a lot of monsters or powerful monsters. Not that any monster would want to walk into that.

Players could commission a Magus from the academy to ward their base of operations, but it is kinda expensive.
Once Tack makes a sheet, if he's interested, then I can get started on starting the game.

[Spiderking50]

Players List

Alex Raman

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Hero description: The man is muscled, but not overly so. He is of average height. His hair is long, and appears to be unkempt. His hair is a dark brown. This look hired what he can turn into. In his true form, he is twelve feet tall. Their muscles are huge and rippling. Their fur is dark brown, and covers much of their body. Their fangs are giant, reaching down to their throat.
Hero/Faction backstory: A faction started by the exiled hybrids, knowing they'd never be accepted in other groups.
Faction name (optional): The Bonded
Faction race: Werepyre
Faction type: warlike
Affiliation with NPC faction (optional): everybody hates them.
Starting holding: Lumber mill
Starting staff: warriors.

Alexander, the Black Sun(Son)

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Hero description: Blond short hair, white, 6 ft, blue eyes, wears all black with a silver medallion of the Sun, has a single scar across his face, age 22.

Hero/Faction backstory: One of the unknown branches of the Church of the Day, deals with handling jobs in a silent and efficient manner. Every member of Solar Eclipse are orphans due to the misdeeds of non-humans, and as such have little sympathy for non-humans but are filled with the wrath for vengence. Alexander is no exception to this; born in a small town called Riverton, he was the youngest of 4 children of a family of fishers. On his 7th birthday he was given his very first fishing lesson by his father, whom took him camping at his favorite spot by the lake which was a few downriver. However what was supposed to be a joyous occasion soon took a turn for the worst a fire seem to be rising from the direction of Riverton. His father told his son to stay by the tent and to stay there until he had returned, it was not long before it turn to night, his father had yet to return. Alexander too afraid to leave the tent waited and waited.... until he unknowingly fell asleep. He woke up the next day to rain drops hitting the tent, Alexander waited under the tent till the rain had finally dissipated, before he went up river to head home. Perhaps his dad fell asleep or was testing Alexander to see if he could make his way home like his older brother, Alexander kept attempting to convince himself, however when he got to Riverton he notice Knights that carried a banner gathering bodies into a pile to burn and rushed out of the woods to when he notice the body of his father was dumped into the pile. The knights drew their swords expecting some trick until, a priest told them to lower their weapons, allowing Alexander to pass by them to reach his father body. He was told by the priest that the village was raided and all were killed. The priest then gave Alexander a choice join a special orphanage or stay here and perished, Alexander joined that orphanage and 15 long years later, he is now head of the Solar Eclipse bent on delivering the heathens their final, silent prayer in the night.

Faction name: Solar Eclipse
Faction race: Human
Religious: Your faction has pledged itself to a lesser god. Starts with a divine favor.
Affiliation with NPC faction (optional): Church of the Day
Starting holding: blacksmith
Starting staff: Assassins

Aduial

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Hero description: A Moriquendi noble, slender and beautiful, with eyes like stars and hair that glistens as waterfalls. Scholar and wizard.
Faction name: Vanimar
Faction type: "Wizard" (As opposed to sorcerer)
Starting holding: Orchard
Starting staff: Wizard

Faction race: Moriquendi (Tolkien dark elves, not Gygax dark elves)
Elves were the first race created by the gods. We are tall, beautiful, magical, ageless and immortal. Then for reasons we never entirely understood, the gods created the inferior mortal races. Humans. They must murder and feast upon the decaying corpses of animals to survive. And even then, only for a short time, falling prey to aging, death and disease in the blink of an eye. Aging? Even if they take care of themselves they fall apart and die anyway. Disease? Why did the gods breath life into such flimsy creatures? We never understood,

Unsurprisingly, after the inferior mortal races were brought to this world, things started to fall apart. For along with their physical frailties and mental deficiencies, so too did they naturally bring with them war, crime, and a host of other ills.

After a mere few hundreds years, the gods finally realized that yeah, this whole "mortal" thing was a dumb idea. So they came to us, the beautiful ones, and basically said, "hey, so the world is turning evil. We love you. Why don't you leave all this behind and come hang out with us instead?"

Most elves agreed, and fled to Valinor.

Some few instead said "Nahh, we'll stay here, thanks."

And thus, we became Moriquendi. The dark ones. Those who rejected the light and chose instead to remain here.


Affiliations
Humans are inferior creatures. We're simply better than they are. But because we are better, we don't engage in petty treachery or war upon them as they do with each other.

We have basic respect for the vampires. Humans are frail and weak, but the vampires have risen above that. It sometimes amazes us that all humans don't eagerly embrace vampirism, but presumably even if they did the vampires wouldn't allow it because they need humans as prey animals. That's slightly uncomfortable for us. Yes, humans are frail and stupid, but animals are unintelligent, eat meat and die of age too. You don't "be better" than animals by murdering animals. Noblesse Oblige. But while the vampires still cling to vestiges of their former mortal frailties in the sense of enjoying the hunt and the blood, they've also clearly risen above their origins. We acknowledge them for that.

We're kind of on the fence about the werewolves. One does not have contempt for an animal merely because it's unintelligent. It's ok, because they're animals. Giving humans intelligence was clearly a mistake. The werewolves are trying to be what humans should always have been: animals. So, while we might disagree with their choice to return to their proper place rather than to seek to rise above it like the vampires have, we nevertheless understand it.

Dwarves? Better than humans.

Demons? Neutral. One does not anger at the wind when it blows in a contrary direction.

Katherine Dalius

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Gender/Sex: Female
Description: A tall, seemingly human woman with pale skin and short red hair made white in places by overuse of magic power. One would notice she had fangs if she opened her mouth.
Bio: One of the world's few half-vampires, born of a union between a human and a vampire, Katherine is a very odd case. She has enhanced strength and reflexes, and the sun merely irritates her, but she requires both blood and normal food and drink. She will live longer than any human could, but is not immortal.
This long life, wherein most of her friends will die long before her, leaves her with the desire to do something with it. She has been afforded the chance few have: To affect the world, and watch that affect take form.
Faction Name: The Seekers
Faction Backstory: The Seekers are a multi-race faction that aims for two primary goals: Obtain knowledge, and make the fighting of not just humans, but all sentient creatures, end. Started by Katherine Dalius.
Faction Race: Union - The faction accepts members regardless of race, with very few exceptions.
Faction Type: Wizard - See LordBucket's type.
Affiliation with NPC faction (optional): They are accepting and attempt to have at least slightly respectful relations with all factions, until given sufficient reason otherwise.
Starting holding: Mines
Starting staff: Wizard

James "Man-Shark" Ray

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Hero description: An ugly, fat bastard best describes this creature. He stands at around 5 feet tall, and has a girth of about 3 feet wide. His hair is oily and thin, and drapes itself across his face. He has a huge, Roman nose, and small, sunk deep, black eyes. His teeth are gnarly, disgusting, and sharp, thus giving him his nickname "Man-Shark".
His pleasant and creepy personality thinly veils the mind of an insane cannibal. He can become violently psychotic at the drop of a hat, and during this time, no one is safe, so it's best to stay out of his way, or get a chunk bitten out of you.

Hero/Faction backstory: The Murder Gluttons, and James by extension, are simply a group of escaped maniacs who have held up in the poor butcher shops of Blackwater. They come in all stripes of insanity, with them being murders, demonically possessed, or just built with a few less cogs in the head. James himself was a serial cannibal, and was found gorging on his latest meal before being found and put in asylum. Then one day, a small group of them escaped, and began their own little gang.

Faction name (optional): The Murder Gluttons

Faction race: Insanity has no race

Faction type: Completely Insane (Occultist as secondary choice)

Affiliation with NPC faction (optional): None. They just left the asylum.

Starting holding: Food (Butcher shops)

Starting staff: The Insane

Avery "three toe" Vanderson

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Hero description: Avery is around six feet tall. He has fair skin and blue eyes, which vaguely remind people of the sea. He has two small red horns which poke out from a shock of brown hair. He wears a black utility coat (coat with many MANY pockets) and black trousers, out of the back of this a red tail pokes out. He has boots which are, you guessed it black!!
Hero/Faction backstory: Avery Vanderson was born to two noble parents, who took his demonic heritage as a bad omen and threw him out. Luckily for the boy he was found by an old occultist name Horatio Vanderson, who began teaching the child about the occult at the young age of 7. It has been 11 years since then and Horatio has died of old age, leaving young Avery to be in charge of the family business and to start a cult in this dark city.
Faction name: The hand of Vashna.
Faction race:Any, but tieflings preferred. We are the lucky ones that were chosen do his work on this earth. These horns and tails are not things to resent, they are things to be proud of. For when our lord of justice, Vashna, left heaven and made a realm for justice against ones sins, he realized he would need eyes, ears, and most importantly hands. And that is us, we are not monsters, we are merely the  hands of Vashna, lord of justice. And with his legions of daemons we shall bring justice to this forsaken city!!!
Faction type: Occultist. Or if you feel it to be better I can do religious.
Starting holding: sorcerer's shop.
Starting staff: Lesser daemon.

[LordBucket]

Is more information coming, or are we expected to submit turns with only what we have so far?

[Spiderking50]

This is going to be the OOC, starting scenarios will be coming soon. As will an IC thread. I was waiting for another submission, but it looks like it's not coming in tonight. So the plan is to type it up and post in the next hour or two.

[Tack]

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Hero name:
Hero description: Gonil Godsborn
Hero/Faction backstory: Raised by a dwarven miner in the belly beneath the city, Gonil always had a righteous and bloodthirsty streak to him. At his coming of age, rather than take apprenticeship as a miner like his father, he pledged himself to a temple so that he could get the excitement he had craved.
So on it continued until he eventually split and founded his own paladin order, annoyed by the indecisiveness and tolerance of the original temple. Now true justice would be served.
Faction name: The Hammerhearts
Faction race: Dwarven
Faction type: Religious
Affiliation with NPC faction: Unfriendly with the occult and undead, friendly with other pious factions.
Starting holding: Mines
Starting staff: -

[Spiderking50]

Ok, I just did the OP for the IC. I'll edit you in.

IC: http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=152194.0

[Spiderking50]

Alright everyone is free to take your first weeks action. Being new in town there is a lot you dont know. This is deliberate. If you want to know something ask it here and I will let you know if I can tell you or if you have to find out in game. For your turn you can have your hero and any units you control each take an action. Remember, turns are a week long. Income starts on turn 2.

[LordBucket]

If you want to know something ask it here.

Your starting spells will be assigned

What are our starting spells?

We each have 500c. Presumably there's a market of some kind and we would know how much things cost. Could we get some standard pricings on things that we might want and that are commonly available? Do we have income from our holdings? Are they the same? Different? How much? If not, are we generating goods from them? I have on orchard. Is it generating fruit? How much? Does it spoil? Do I need to specifically say "gather fruit" or does that happen automatically every turn? Avery has a Sorceror's shop. Does that generate income? How much? Does he need to stock the store somehow? How? With what? Do holdings require staff to man them, or is that assumed? Alexander has a "blacksmith holding." Does that include the blacksmith, and he's simply not listed under staff? Does he need to acquire raw materials or do materials magically appear and magically be sold each turn? Gonil has a mine. Does Alexander need to get ore from Gonil to go into business? Does Gonil need to staff his mine to get ore, or does it simply appear every turn? Do we have to pay our staff, or once acquired are they treated as assets? How do we acquire more? Can I go to market and buy another wizard? Do I need to train them? Are we assumed to have unlimited racial resources? For example, if I want another wizard, can I just say "recruit a moriquendi wizard" and have that happen? Why would I do so? What can a wizard do? What can a sorcerer do? What can a druid do? What spells do we have? How does combat work?

How does this game actually work?

Or is figuring all of this out through trial and error an intended part of gameplay?

Also, would you include bay12 user names in character spoilers so we know who people are without hunting through the thread? Thanks.

Also, Gonil Godsbron appears to be missing from the player list in the OOC thread