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Author Topic: Arms Race, Moskurg: 1935 Production  (Read 99572 times)

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Re: Arms Race, Moskurg: 1933 Revision
« Reply #1860 on: September 01, 2015, 05:05:58 pm »

Assault Rifle Revision: Make the MK-47 use a .280 caliber intermediate cartridge, decreasing recoil and increasing accuracy. Also, try to lighten the MK-47 and make it more compact, so it can be used better in close combat.

((there, I dun made it official.))

+1 from me as well.

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Re: Arms Race, Moskurg: 1933 Revision
« Reply #1861 on: September 01, 2015, 05:28:50 pm »

What about using this new steel on our tanks as well?
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Re: Arms Race, Moskurg: 1933 Revision
« Reply #1862 on: September 01, 2015, 05:34:56 pm »

I'll wait for a new vehicle design for that.
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Re: Arms Race, Moskurg: 1933 Revision
« Reply #1863 on: September 01, 2015, 05:36:58 pm »

That's a good idea. Plus manganese steel is not metallic, so whatever vehicle used it for armor would be effectively impervious to their shaped magnetic charges.
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Re: Arms Race, Moskurg: 1933 Revision
« Reply #1864 on: September 01, 2015, 09:19:44 pm »

That's a good idea. Plus magnesium steel is not metallic, so whatever vehicle used it for armor would be effectively impervious to their shaped magnetic charges.
Manganese, not magnesium.

Assault rifle revision then.

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Re: Arms Race, Moskurg: 1933 Revision
« Reply #1865 on: September 02, 2015, 12:12:57 am »

Don't forget to include designing it for the optional scope.
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Re: Arms Race, Moskurg: 1933 Revision
« Reply #1866 on: September 02, 2015, 12:17:01 am »

Yes!

+1 to making the assault rifle able to accept scopes please.
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Re: Arms Race, Moskurg: 1933 Revision
« Reply #1867 on: September 02, 2015, 12:24:31 am »

I'm pretty sure it already has the rail system or something. Besides, I'd rather keep the cost of them low enough so that we can equip all our troops with said rifle.
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Re: Arms Race, Moskurg: 1933 Revision
« Reply #1868 on: September 02, 2015, 04:00:56 am »

Alrighty, let's see, here's the original...

MK-47: This is a blowback operated rifle using .30 caliber rounds, designed to be an automatic weapon with a similar size and role to the Model 1 Service Rifle. It has a rear pistol grip, a slotted wooden foregrip and a 30 round magazine which mounts on the side. It is based on the Cascade's action, but heavily reinforced to withstand the pressures incurred by full size rifle rounds. The heavy moving bolt significantly affects accuracy when firing automatically, even at medium range. The weapon has a heavy barrel to prevent overheating and help with the recoil, which makes the weapon weigh around 16 pounds, but the recoil from rapidly firing rifle rounds is still a significant issue. Fires 600 rounds per minute. Costs 2 ore.

And the updates:

MK-47A: The MK-47 is reworked around the smaller, shorter .280 caliber intermediate rifle round. This involves a principally identical but shorter receiver and magazine, and the gun sheds weight in general as parts are made with less reinforcement and ballast is removed, down to 12 pounds. A tactical rail is added. The reduction in firepower brings recoil down to acceptable levels, making it a much more practical weapon. It is effective only to medium range, but as it is only capable of automatic fire, it cannot be aimed effectively past medium range anyway. The blowback action still has a relatively heavy bolt, which makes the gun lurch around a bit. It is still moderately cumbersome for close combat.

You have gained the .280 Intermediate cartridge, notably, while the Germans haven't even built the FG42 yet to realize they need intermediate rounds. Do you want to rename the new MK-47A and/or obsolete the original?
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Re: Arms Race, Moskurg: 1933 Nuclear Weapons Production
« Reply #1869 on: September 02, 2015, 04:49:42 am »

I'd prefer to obsolete the old gun. That name is fine for me.
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Re: Arms Race, Moskurg: 1933 Nuclear Weapons Production
« Reply #1870 on: September 02, 2015, 05:01:22 am »

Don't obsolete that. This too heavy gun still has its own niche (namely, the BAR)

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Re: Arms Race, Moskurg: 1933 Nuclear Weapons Production
« Reply #1871 on: September 02, 2015, 09:37:06 am »

The BAR itself is obsoleted by LMGs. And since we have the Sorraia there's no use for such a thing. Obsolete the MK-47
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Re: Arms Race, Moskurg: 1933 Nuclear Weapons Production
« Reply #1872 on: September 02, 2015, 11:50:26 am »

Yeah, I'd say obsolete.

And it seems we had nuclear weapons in development after all. Nice.
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Re: Arms Race, Moskurg: 1933 Nuclear Weapons Production
« Reply #1873 on: September 02, 2015, 12:02:59 pm »

Clearly we need to start building ICBMs. Or you know, find an agreeable treaty. :P
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Re: Arms Race, Moskurg: 1933 Nuclear Weapons Production
« Reply #1874 on: September 02, 2015, 12:50:49 pm »

So long as it's weighted in our favour, sure. :P
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