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[Baffler]

Okay, with the finalizations:

"Colt" Mobile Assault Carrier
A medium sized tracked vehicle, resistant to small arms fire, with side armor plates that can be left down (where they stand at shoulder level for the crew inside) for increased protection from light vehicles or folded up into a sloped roof with firing ports to protect against plunging fire, grenades, and attack from higher ground at the cost of visibility.

It has benches on either side of the carrier compartment, each seating one squad, to allow it to transport infantry, and is equipped with a modular mounting frame that allows it to serve as a mobile platform for crewed weapons and communications systems. It has a front-mounted Sorraia machinegun, and mounts on the rear and sides for the light machineguns carried by the squads mounted inside.

[Taricus]

Again, we don't need an APC right now. Or anytime in the forseeable future (AKA save that one for the plains.)

Struunk II Armoured car
An armoured car, with around 35 mm angled (35mm pre-angle) RHA armour in the front and a spherical turret to repel the Arstotzkan autocannon shots while the other sides are more lightly armoured. equipped with the breaker's 1.6 inch cannon, along with sorraia MGs for it's coaxial and pintle mounts, and designed to fit a radio into the turret (though at the moment, most won't have them). Also featured on the II is the suspension system and portal gears seen on the tiger truck, allowing it to more easily traverse rough terrain and the like, and the smooth and flat underbody allows the vehicle to essentially slide over surfaces such as sand or mud. A top speed of around 50 MPH is aimed for.

[evilcherry]

Just be curious, Taric, what'll the role of the Struunk II be?

Because on paper it's basically a light tank on wheels.


*Note that I'm opting for an IFV moreso than a pure APC.

[Taricus]

Basically a modernised armoured car. And hey, the more AT we push out to counter their tanks, the better.

[evilcherry]

Basically a modernised armoured car. And hey, the more AT we push out to counter their tanks, the better.

I'm not really sure if such a derp gun can fit onto an wheeled armored car. I'm also wary about its cost.

I also wanted tracked and cheap because it fits our needs of city fighting and pushing across the jungle.

[heydude6]

Again, we don't need an APC right now. Or anytime in the forseeable future (AKA save that one for the plains.)

Struunk II Armoured car
An armoured car, with around 35 mm angled (35mm pre-angle) RHA armour in the front and a spherical turret to repel the Arstotzkan autocannon shots while the other sides are more lightly armoured. equipped with the breaker's 1.6 inch cannon, along with sorraia MGs for it's coaxial and pintle mounts, and designed to fit a radio into the turret (though at the moment, most won't have them). Also featured on the II is the suspension system and portal gears seen on the tiger truck, allowing it to more easily traverse rough terrain and the like, and the smooth and flat underbody allows the vehicle to essentially slide over surfaces such as sand or mud. A top speed of around 50 MPH is aimed for.

+1 remove the breaker cannon though. Replace with a stallion if you really want to.

[Taricus]

An IFV isn't going to be cheap though, that's the thing. And our gun can fit on an armoured car. I mean, I'm pretty sure the Breaker cannon is roughly equivalent to the small cannons mounted on most WW2 armoured cars, so there's not much issue there.

EDIT: No stallion. We need our armoured cars to be effective, and the stallion is past it's prime in regards to being an anti-tank weapon.

[Devastator]

What you need is grenades.

We've already got grenades.

Nope.

[evilcherry]

An IFV isn't going to be cheap though, that's the thing. And our gun can fit on an armoured car. I mean, I'm pretty sure the Breaker cannon is roughly equivalent to the small cannons mounted on most WW2 armoured cars, so there's not much issue there.

EDIT: No stallion. We need our armoured cars to be effective, and the stallion is past it's prime in regards to being an anti-tank weapon.

The Breaker is rated at 5/2 in resource terms. We need to bring the new vehicle down to 2/2 (cheap) or at most 3/2 (expensive)

Also, stallion isn't anti-tank, if at all. With us procrastinating on faster autocannons (as we always have more pressing concerns) this remains our top gun against lightly armored targets. Not to mention its still effective as a grenade launcher (its motor driven instead of gas driven after all)

[Taricus]

Moskurg Uniform 1931 'Tigerstripe'
A major improvement in Moskurg's uniforms, both displaying the nation's love of tigers whilst being more effective in camouflage. Based on the tiger's stripes, this new form of camouflage is a multicoloured pattern of varying colours arranged into 'stripes' based on the terrain it's meant to be used in. Ostensibly it disperses with solid steel plates, using a mix of steel plates on reinforced fabric to function akin to brigantine or a flak jacket, with various pockets added to store the ammo the average moskurgan soldier needs (Which is admittedly a lot). The helmets are to start using higher-quality materials, and basically copy the german stalhelm in design for protection to the head. Officers are to retain capes, with the camo pattern applied to them, though the hats are replaced with helmets for field duties.

@Evilcherry. That's the ENTIRE breaker. Not just it's gun. We cut out the gun, put it on something lighter and cheaper, it'll probably end up cheaper.

[evilcherry]

Moskurg Uniform 1931 'Tigerstripe'
A major improvement in Moskurg's uniforms, both displaying the nation's love of tigers whilst being more effective in camouflage. Based on the tiger's stripes, this new form of camouflage is a multicoloured pattern of varying colours arranged into 'stripes' based on the terrain it's meant to be used in. Ostensibly it disperses with solid steel plates, using a mix of steel plates on reinforced fabric to function akin to brigantine or a flak jacket, with various pockets added to store the ammo the average moskurgan soldier needs (Which is admittedly a lot). The helmets are to start using higher-quality materials, and basically copy the german stalhelm in design for protection to the head. Officers are to retain capes, with the camo pattern applied to them, though the hats are replaced with helmets for field duties.

@Evilcherry. That's the ENTIRE breaker. Not just it's gun. We cut out the gun, put it on something lighter and cheaper, it'll probably end up cheaper.

The outdated bombardier is 3 Ore. The Breaker gun by itself should be more expensive.

[Taricus]

Not likely, given the breaker cannon is smaller. In any case, a larger weapon, which it'll need, will be three ore atleast.

[evilcherry]

Invokes cost check on breaker cannon on a cheap traverse

[Devastator]

Why do AFV designs for urban fighting not use Diesel engine and slatted armor?  Those are very useful, and should be called out specifically.

[Sensei]

Invokes cost check on breaker cannon on a cheap traverse

2 for the gun on a carriage, 3 with a small motor. Dice could fuck it up still.