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[evilcherry]

Model 55 "Monarch Butterfly" Bomber

Using all our knowledge of aviation, Moskurg announces plans of delivering payload at locations that were previously out of reach of the Model 2. It boasts 4 engines, some stallions for defense, and a bomb capacity of a few tonnes. High altitude capacity and endurance is a must. Control costs to Very expensive.

* LordSlowpoke pokes

fiberglaaaaaass

ain't a butterfly without fiberglass

Don't want to push that into national effort.

[LordSlowpoke]

...why does everyone assume fiberglass will make things expensive

do i need to go into the ooc thread and ask sensei directly

[evilcherry]

...why does everyone assume fiberglass will make things expensive

do i need to go into the ooc thread and ask sensei directly

Also note that fiberglass isn't that useful for military hardware.

Plastics however...

[LordSlowpoke]

fiberglass has been used in airplane-related shenanigans until the 90s, it's useful for its purpose

nothing's stopping us from doing plastics, but it'd be wise to propose that when they're relevant

[evilcherry]

fiberglass has been used in airplane-related shenanigans until the 90s, it's useful for its purpose

nothing's stopping us from doing plastics, but it'd be wise to propose that when they're relevant

Except not in fighters or bombers in a large scale.

[LordSlowpoke]

fiberglass has been used in airplane-related shenanigans until the 90s, it's useful for its purpose

nothing's stopping us from doing plastics, but it'd be wise to propose that when they're relevant

Except not in fighters or bombers in a large scale.

and we can change that

we have the stronkness

[Kashyyk]

It is pretty much guaranteed that Arstotzka is gonna try and take back the air battle. If you guys are not keen on improving our CQC with armour, I think we should build a flak gun to counter anything they make. I'm totally ok with ripping off the german 8.8cm flak, as most people want to get a gun that can shoot plans and tanks.

[Taricus]

Right now, we just need to revise the hippo to be less dangerous to use. For our design, We'd probably want something close-combat oriented (That isn't personal armour, to dissuade any useless ideas coming to the fore.) Or we can build a dedicated sniper.

Struunk II Armoured car
An armoured car, with around 35 mm armour in the front, sloped at a  and turret to repel the Arstotzkan autocannon shots while the other sides are more lightly armoured) equipped with the breaker's 1.6 inch cannon, along with sorraia MGs for it's coaxial and pintle mounts, and designed to fit a radio into the turret (though at the moment, most won't have them). Also featured on the II is the suspension system and portal gears seen on the tiger truck, allowing it to more easily traverse rough terrain and the like, and the smooth and flat underbody allows the vehicle to essentially slide over surfaces such as sand or mud. A top speed of around 50 MPH is aimed for.

[Kashyyk]

Why is armour useless?

[Taricus]

Mostly since it'll only stop non AP SMG rounds.

[evilcherry]

Right now, we just need to revise the hippo to be less dangerous to use. For our design, We'd probably want something close-combat oriented (That isn't personal armour, to dissuade any useless ideas coming to the fore.) Or we can build a dedicated sniper.

Struunk II Armoured car
An armoured car, with around 35 mm armour in the front, sloped at a  and turret to repel the Arstotzkan autocannon shots while the other sides are more lightly armoured) equipped with the breaker's 1.6 inch cannon, along with sorraia MGs for it's coaxial and pintle mounts, and designed to fit a radio into the turret (though at the moment, most won't have them). Also featured on the II is the suspension system and portal gears seen on the tiger truck, allowing it to more easily traverse rough terrain and the like, and the smooth and flat underbody allows the vehicle to essentially slide over surfaces such as sand or mud. A top speed of around 50 MPH is aimed for.

Why Wheeled not tracked? You really can't beat light IFVs in jungles.

[Taricus]

Speed and resource costs. An armoured car's going to be cheaper than a tank or the like.

[Baffler]

It mentions that Arsetotzkan motorcycles and cars have great difficulty moving around in the city because of rubble, so designing a tracked vehicle would probably do us better, plus it'd help us a bit more in the mountains and jungles. Based on evilcherry's Rattlesnake from a few pages back:

"Colt" Mobile Assault Carrier

A medium sized tracked vehicle, resistant to small arms fire, with side armor plates that can be left down (where they stand at shoulder level for the crew inside) for increased protection from light vehicles or folded up into a sloped roof with firing ports to protect against plunging fire, grenades, and attack from higher ground at the cost of visibility. It has benches on either side of the carrier compartment to allow it to transport infantry, but its most novel feature is a set of four adjustable clamps attached by powerful magnets to the middle of the floor. These allow it to firmly secure crewed weapons or communications equipment.

[Taricus]

We don't exactly need an APC right now, our trucks are more than capable of moving our troops around.

[Baffler]

Our trucks are heavy and slow, plus this doesn't need a road to get where it's going and it can provide support to infantry when they dismount.