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Author Topic: Arms Race, Moskurg: 1935 Production  (Read 97439 times)

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Re: Arms Race, Moskurg: 1916 Design, Party Like It's 1916
« Reply #255 on: July 26, 2015, 07:03:18 pm »

Wee dont need one, their tanks are slow as balls, using direct LOS at guns from the Revised Bombardiers would deal with them on the plains.
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« Reply #256 on: July 26, 2015, 07:05:32 pm »

Exactly! We'll be perfectly fine, for the time being, with a revised gun.
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Re: Arms Race, Moskurg: 1916 Design, Party Like It's 1916
« Reply #257 on: July 26, 2015, 07:10:30 pm »

Exactly! So Revise the Bombardier gun, and make something else other than AT.
My vote goes to flamer, but I am open to suggestions.
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Re: Arms Race, Moskurg: 1916 Design, Party Like It's 1916
« Reply #258 on: July 26, 2015, 07:22:43 pm »

Voting for the flamer at this point is... pointless, given the only two competitors are the grenade and the SP AT.
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Re: Arms Race, Moskurg: 1916 Design, Party Like It's 1916
« Reply #259 on: July 26, 2015, 07:23:34 pm »

I'm sticking with the SPAT. I'm pretty sure the voting's already been resolved.

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Hand Grenade: Taricus, Adwarf, Dampe, Happerry, Elfeater
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Re: Arms Race, Moskurg: 1916 Design, Party Like It's 1916
« Reply #260 on: July 26, 2015, 07:27:47 pm »

Ill go with hand grenade then.
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Re: Arms Race, Moskurg: 1916 Design, Party Like It's 1916
« Reply #261 on: July 26, 2015, 07:58:16 pm »

Plus vote for grenade.
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Re: Arms Race, Moskurg: 1916 Design, Party Like It's 1916
« Reply #262 on: July 26, 2015, 08:03:34 pm »

I side with grenade...

Alternatively the molotov cocktail.

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Re: Arms Race, Moskurg: 1916 Design, Party Like It's 1916
« Reply #263 on: July 26, 2015, 08:06:55 pm »

I am only voting for the grenade due to the ridiculous size of the gun they are trying to put on the SP AT, if they scale down the size, sure I'll vote for it.
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Re: Arms Race, Moskurg: 1916 Design, Party Like It's 1916
« Reply #264 on: July 26, 2015, 08:11:35 pm »

With a grenade however, wouldn't they be too short a range to provide deterrent against enemy armor? At that point, they'd already be over the trenches, right? Wouldn't something with a longer range, such as the SP-AT work better, as well as being applicable in the mountains too?
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Re: Arms Race, Moskurg: 1916 Design, Party Like It's 1916
« Reply #265 on: July 26, 2015, 08:14:19 pm »

With a grenade however, wouldn't they be too short a range to provide deterrent against enemy armor? At that point, they'd already be over the trenches, right? Wouldn't something with a longer range, such as the SP-AT work better, as well as being applicable in the mountains too?
Its over sized though we are strapping a gun that a destroyer would use onto a chassis, a higher velocity, lower diameter gun would do much more damage, and allow for faster fire, and more ammunition.
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Re: Arms Race, Moskurg: 1916 Design, Party Like It's 1916
« Reply #266 on: July 26, 2015, 08:18:17 pm »

Eh, artillery guns aren't that small. Besides, the grenade also works to pelt the enemy infantry to ensure they aren't near the tank as well.
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Re: Arms Race, Moskurg: 1916 Design, Party Like It's 1916
« Reply #267 on: July 26, 2015, 08:19:11 pm »

You can only throw a grenade about 15-30 yards... By that time it doesn't matter if you blow up the tanks! The freaking infantry are going to pour into your trenches and the it's up to luck to see who wins. God help us if the enemy develops a new trench-fighting weapon, then we will almost certainly lose the plains for good.

You can't use the grenades in most assaults either without tanks to protect you during the advance! Assaulting trenches head on just didn't work, historically. Grenades have never been a principal anti-armor weapon. In fact they are obsolete today. We still wouldn't have a hard counter. The enemy will be able to keep attacking since we have no way to aggressively deal with their tanks, only a method of passively destroying them AFTER they've done their damage.
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« Reply #268 on: July 26, 2015, 08:20:58 pm »

'Nade down the exhaust pipes? That thing runds on steam so those aren't going to be small.
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Re: Arms Race, Moskurg: 1916 Design, Party Like It's 1916
« Reply #269 on: July 26, 2015, 08:21:39 pm »

Eh, artillery guns aren't that small. Besides, the grenade also works to pelt the enemy infantry to ensure they aren't near the tank as well.
It isn't an artillery issue, it is an anti tank gun issue, we are over engineering the SPAT by throwing practically an artillery piece on it when all it really requires is something to destroy armor, and a destroyers cannon isnt the answer to that, we aren't fighting ships, we are fighting a slow, kinda shitty tank.
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