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[Parsely]

There's a bit of a problem with that. Namely we don't actually know any composites-

-and we don't actually have the capacity to actually manufacture any that would be better than just plain RHA.

Especially given that we're trying to attempt something that was attempted my a much more powerful state atleast three decades later of that proposal.

The word "composite" just means a combination of parts. Like a sandwich. A sandwich is a composite food (bread + meat + cheese). So all you need to know to make a composite armor is how to make two different hard materials. Like glass and steel.

You can make glass. Glass is made in furnaces, the same kind we use to make our metal. I'm suggesting glass because the first composite armor was glass between sheets of metal, and because glass is lighter than steel while still being quite hard.

We need one of these things, plus fixed treads on the T1, in order to start winning the plains:
- More range than their autocannons.
- Immunity to 20mm ammunition.

I'd back a dedicated AT gun (longer barrel, rifling, smallish rounds) if someone proposed it, but I think improved armor would be the better choice, since that means that even in situations where an autocannon attack can't be avoided (such as at close range in the jungle or when a plane attacks) the tank will always survive.

E: Well, maybe not when a plane attacks, top armor being thin and all. I doubt making armor simply thicker would be an adequate solution unless we made a much bigger engine.

[Iituem]

DESIGN

30cal concealable revolver - Slowpoke
2.2inch cannon
Model 2 Biplane - Iituem, Playergamer
Fighter/Bomber - Happery
LR rocket pods - GUNIN
Complete Tank Redesign - Heydude
Tankbuster 3" - Evilcherry
Composite Armour - GUNIN
Smasher Redesign - Taricus


REVISION

Miniaturise radio   (Slowpoke?), Evilcherry, Iituem, Playergamer
Fix Treads   (Slowpoke?), Taricus?, GUNIN, Iituem, Playergamer
Sawn-off Shotgun to Pump-Action shotgun - Happery

Note: I am returning my revision vote from treads to radio.  We need air superiority, damn it.

[Playergamer]

How about we hold our revision until later, after we've seen the results of our new plane?

[Iituem]

Agreed.

[Devastator]

TBH, there's probably a lot of ways to win the plains.

-napalm bombs

-larger artillery

-better armor.

[Sensei]

It looks like the votes are in for a fighter-bomber called the Model 2 Hornet. Then revision is torn between revising the radio or tank treads.

I'm going to have to read about the history of tank armor and introduce some clear armor rules for ground vehicles soon, methinks.

Model 2 Hornet: A wide, heavy, wood-framed biplane. To serve its purpose of carrying bombs, it is heavy and sturdy (as much as a wooden plane can be) with bomb racks beneath the wings. It is powered by a big ten-cylinder motor (your biggest yet) and weighs a ton on its own, and carries half a ton of bombs. The bombs are simply artillery shells with fins attached, and are available in every variety. The gunner's seat has an M1 Stallion which can rotate in a full circle and carries seven yards of ammo. Costs 3 oil.

You may now revise.

[Devastator]

Sweet, that sounds like a Fairey Swordfish;  the greatest obsolete plane of all time.

I'd probably go with the radio at this point, as the treads, nice as they are, aren't useful for the mountains yet.

Soon.

..or maybe we should be building an airstrip somewhere.

[Parsely]

I'm sticking with treads, since I believe it's the only way we can win back the plains. Though our sick new bomber will help.

[Devastator]

That said, the OP mentioned that the smoke made it short-ranged conflict, which would mean grenades again would be really nice.  ;-)

Treads would be nice, but we'd need a breakthrough to use them, and we can't make a breakthrough without better armor or an infantry upgrade.  I'm in favor of treads in general, though.

If we do go with treads, I'd recommend aiming to lighten them, and improve speed and reliability.  Lighter carriages would be very nice when people have to schlup artillery through the jungles.

[Dampe]

Sweet, that sounds like a Fairey Swordfish;  the greatest obsolete plane of all time.

Hell yeah!

[Playergamer]

+1 for treads. Assuming general treads improvement would improve our tank treads and fix that problem.

((Also, sensei, could you give us a pic as to what the smasher looks like? Just curious.))

[Devastator]

Oh, and sensai, I wouldn't worry about composites at this point.  A good roll on upgrading armor at this point probably would mean some good steel alloys, which make for a plenty good upgrade.  It'd probably be another one (or a critical success) to get tungsten steel, which is a good upgrade from that.

Of course, we could roll to invent duralumin, the way to the good monoplanes and much better aircraft..

[Dampe]

Of course, we could roll to invent duralumin, the way to the good monoplanes and much better aircraft..

+1 this.

[Powder Miner]

Toot toot treads

[Happerry]

Revise the plane to only cost two oil instead of three oil, as we only have two oil resources to work with and I'd prefer not to have it be expensive.