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Author Topic: Arms Race, Moskurg: 1935 Production  (Read 99488 times)

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Re: Arms Race, Moskurg: 1934 Production
« Reply #1935 on: September 10, 2015, 08:10:01 am »

Our cavalry have been shown using MK-47s on horseback, even before the revision, so I don't think we need the carbine.
Oh were they? Ok then. I was under the impression they were still using our horsekiller carbines. If that's the case, let's obsolete it.
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Re: Arms Race, Moskurg: 1934 Production
« Reply #1936 on: September 10, 2015, 09:24:48 am »

Agreed.

Also, can we issue an order for our troops to make petrol bombs in the field? They would just be mixing diesel fuel and motor oil in a glass bottle, then sticking a rag in for a fuse. Not exactly a factory made weapon. They might get us a slight boost even if they do end up costing oil, but they aren't worth a design.
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Even if you found a suitable opening, I doubt it would prove all too satisfying. And it might leave some nasty wounds, depending on the moral high ground's geology.
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Re: Arms Race, Moskurg: 1934 Production
« Reply #1937 on: September 10, 2015, 09:39:17 am »

I'm still in favour of retaining the MK-47. Interoperability of ammo is always a bonus, so we can have dedicated .300 squads.

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Re: Arms Race, Moskurg: 1934 Production
« Reply #1938 on: September 10, 2015, 09:40:36 am »

Eh, the old MK-47 is obsolete. It doesn't really offer anything that either the new 'A' variant or the Sorraia doesn't already do.
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Re: Arms Race, Moskurg: 1934 Production
« Reply #1939 on: September 10, 2015, 09:45:07 am »

Eh, the old MK-47 is obsolete. It doesn't really offer anything that either the new 'A' variant or the Sorraia doesn't already do.
except it is in the .300 and I can imagine there are situations that soldiers won't want to carry two kinds of ammo in a squad.

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Re: Arms Race, Moskurg: 1934 Production
« Reply #1940 on: September 10, 2015, 10:00:22 am »

Eh, all things considered, that's a pretty... poor reason for that., given that it's likely only going to be our support weapons being chambered for the .30 cal from this point.
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Re: Arms Race, Moskurg: 1935 Design
« Reply #1941 on: September 11, 2015, 04:54:10 am »

If they solve either issue with that Tiger armour (which is currently very expensive for them, being complex and foreign measurements) we are massively screwed. Our two designs were also nowhere near as effective as we needed them to be.

Right, we need to start making things out of wood now. My suggestion would be rocket artillery. This should be designed with as few metal parts as possible (use wood instead) and make the most of our 2 oil. Oil equates to explosives and fuel after all. Possibly a revision for all our heavy weapons, to make partial wood versions?
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Re: Arms Race, Moskurg: 1935 Design
« Reply #1942 on: September 11, 2015, 05:09:21 am »

edit:you see nothing!!!!!!
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Re: Arms Race, Moskurg: 1935 Design
« Reply #1943 on: September 11, 2015, 06:18:06 am »

For fucks sake people stop making expensive shit. Think cheap. We need cheap mass producable crap we can throw at them en masse.


RPGS,
Sticky Bombs,
UZIs
Automatic (or not) Shotguns
Remote explosives
Radar

we are entering city warfare, we have cavarly and we have armour that means we are still better at close quarters combat than them and there is the point were we have to turn them around. We need to play to our strengths not to theirs.

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Re: Arms Race, Moskurg: 1935 Design
« Reply #1944 on: September 11, 2015, 08:06:53 am »

I suggest that we figure out some sort of technology for guerrilla warfare/terrorism I guess should Artotzka pull for a Moskurg-culture-destroying full surrender... Basically, we should make it not worth their while.
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Re: Arms Race, Moskurg: 1935 Design
« Reply #1945 on: September 11, 2015, 09:02:40 am »

Radar to support the Bumblebees, and Sticky Bombs to take on their tanks with our cavalry.
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Re: Arms Race, Moskurg: 1935 Design
« Reply #1946 on: September 11, 2015, 01:30:33 pm »

We need to secure our ore supplies if we're to have even the faintest hope of stopping their advance on the capital. It seems now that nothing we design this turn will be able to stop them there with our metal supplies as they are. Improving the M1 service rifle is a good revision for mountain combat, but what to design? Vehicles aren't much use up there, so a crewed or possibly towed weapon is probably the way to go. I'd say air if we had the operational range, but as it stands artillery seems to be the way to go. How's this?

M35 "Torrent" Field Gun

A 3.6 inch gun mounted on a wheeled split-trail carriage capable of serving as both a light artillery piece and an AT gun, with a rounded face shield to protect its crew from snipers and other small arms fire. It utilizes a horizontal sliding wedge action, and can fire smoke, shrapnel, incendiary, and HEAT rounds in addition to standard shells. It has an optional (so we don't get priced out of this gun because of it) mechanical director and targeting calculator system to improve its indirect fire capability and precision at long ranges. Metal parts are welded, cast, or stamped wherever possible to further reduce manufacturing costs.
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Re: Arms Race, Moskurg: 1935 Design
« Reply #1947 on: September 11, 2015, 01:44:01 pm »

The main problem with artillery right now is that they have overhelming Air-Superiority. So anything not infantry based is fucked.

Improved Mortars might be the way to go. Easily deployable in the Mountain Ranges, cheap and able to be used by our infantry.
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Re: Arms Race, Moskurg: 1935 Design
« Reply #1948 on: September 11, 2015, 01:47:52 pm »

The main problem with artillery right now is that they have overhelming Air-Superiority. So anything not infantry based is fucked.

Improved Mortars might be the way to go. Easily deployable in the Mountain Ranges, cheap and able to be used by our infantry.

They can't get really their aircraft into the mountains though, where this is designed to operate. Maybe a heavy mortar is a better option though. It loses out on the AT capability, but it'd definitely be cheaper and man portable is good here.
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Re: Arms Race, Moskurg: 1935 Design
« Reply #1949 on: September 11, 2015, 02:38:22 pm »

they don't have tanks in the mountains but they sure as hell have aircraft.
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