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[Sensei]

Alright, guys, quick dissertation:

AMMO

You have 7.62mm ammo, which is Mosin Nagant ammo, the 7.62x54r. All of your 7.62 is currently this. That means your Nosin Magants, AS-F14 rifles, AS-1924 LMGs, AS-1910 MG's, and so on all share the same ammo. In modern terminology, this is "Full powered rifle ammo" and an automatic rifle which fires it would be a battle rifle. 7.62x39, an intermediate round designed for automatic rifles which are lightweight and easy to control but can reach out to more than 300 meters, has not been invented yet.

Your 9mm ammo, which is a larger caliber than 7.62, is basically 9x19mm Parabellum, a small pistol round, which illustrates that caliber does not describe a bullet. We have so far relied references to historical ammunition to clarify what size our cartridges are, but we need to be more clear when making up new ammunition.

In modern terminology, an Assault Rifle is a select-fire rifle using intermediate rounds, and a Battle Rifle is a select-fire rifle using full powered rounds. However, just saying that you're making an assault rifle doesn't necessarily clarify that you're using new ammo. When you are designing new ammo along with a gun, you should say so specifically. If you simply state that a gun is chambered in 7.62 caliber, it would be natural to assume this is the 7.62x54r, or 7.62 Rifle, that you already have. Instead say something like "new 7.62 Intermediate rounds" or "7.62x38" or whatever new round you want to make. Or if you like naming things by caliber, you could say "New 6.5mm Intermediate Rounds" and from there on we can just say 6.5mm, and know from that name that it's a bullet with much less powder behind it than the 7.62mm.

THIS CONCLUDES THE DISSERTATION

[Kot]

We should make SMGs in 7.62x54r. We won't need flamethrowers this way, as everything in front would be on fire anyway.

[tryrar]

I vote for the AS-AR34 with the following mods:

Specify gas-operation, add a single standard rail for mounting equipment, as well as a detachable underslung bayonet that's designed to be attached and still allow the gun to fire, and can double as a combat knife in a pinch. I second 7.62x39I ammo

[tryrar]

Now that Sensei has said we basically need to take the jungle to do anything fancy with our navy, I simply propose we revise our new 75mm gun with a dual-purpose naval mounting for the deck gun competition. It should be designed to be easily mounted to an appropriate space on our cargo ships to discourage any adventurous ideas from our tiger fucker friends and allow them to act as ersatz gunboats for light artillery duties(though we'd still probably just strictly use them as cargo haulers)

[QuakeIV]

I vote for the AS-AR34 and for offering it to the nazis.

[Aseaheru]

Voting for AS-AR34

Voting for calling 7.62x39 ammunition 7.62Ll(ow power)

Our current ammo is 7.62x54Rr(immed), so this makes more sense to me than calling it 7.62i, since that makes everyone think that 7.62x54Rr stands for rifle.

And, well, it will be low power compared to 7.62x54r.

[Funk]

Voting for AS-RR34

[Sensei]

Design the AS-AR34.

Spoiler: AS-AR34 (click to show/hide)

The AS-AR34 is a select-fire, detachable magazine-fed assault rifle chambered for the 7.62x39mm round. It's capable of firing in both automatic and semi-automatic. It features a pistol grip and a foregrip with adjustable iron sights.

I vote for the AS-AR34 with the following mods:

Specify gas-operation, add a single standard rail for mounting equipment, as well as a detachable underslung bayonet that's designed to be attached and still allow the gun to fire, and can double as a combat knife in a pinch. I second 7.62x39I ammo

Voting for AS-AR34

Voting for calling 7.62x39 ammunition 7.62Ll(ow power)

Our current ammo is 7.62x54Rr(immed), so this makes more sense to me than calling it 7.62i, since that makes everyone think that 7.62x54Rr stands for rifle.

And, well, it will be low power compared to 7.62x54r.

Alrighty, if you guys are in favor of these other changes (and I'll take silence for a yes) then that's what's getting designed this year.

[Andres]

Aye.

[Aseaheru]

explicitly seconding Tryrar's addons.

[andrea]

No time to discuss, so sure lets do that.

[Andres]

And the rounds used are the same that the AK47 uses, right?

[Aseaheru]

Along with the AKM and SKS, yes.

Well, as near enough as is possible... Ten years ahead of time?

[Kot]

Voting for AS-RR34

[Funk]

Along with the AKM and SKS, yes.

Well, as near enough as is possible... Ten years ahead of time?

Look at Moskurg's MK-47A Assault Rifle it's an intermediate short .280 calibre.
We could try for a radical new weapon in the AS-RR34 or just copy Moskurg with the AS-AR34.