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Author Topic: Arms Race, Arstotzka: 1935 Production  (Read 162697 times)

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Re: Arms Race, Arstotzka: 1932 Design
« Reply #2775 on: August 27, 2015, 04:42:00 am »

their interceptors are 2 years old. our interceptors are 8 years old and derived from a dive bomber.

APC and artillery are also fine, I just want to push for air.

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Re: Arms Race, Arstotzka: 1932 Design
« Reply #2776 on: August 27, 2015, 04:48:45 am »

Are we allowed to use our design phase to develop tactical rail technology and also modify our scopes and other attachables to use them? Or would air still be a batter choice?
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Re: Arms Race, Arstotzka: 1932 Design
« Reply #2777 on: August 27, 2015, 06:15:13 am »

Allowed probably, but I'd like to attach more features to such an action.
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« Reply #2778 on: August 27, 2015, 07:09:48 am »

For tactical rails what about an under barrel rocket grenade?
Or what about a single shot flame thrower like this?
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Re: Arms Race, Arstotzka: 1932 Design
« Reply #2779 on: August 27, 2015, 10:11:49 am »

On that note, I noticed we are about to capture the Jungle. Maybe another logistic upgrade is in order.
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« Reply #2780 on: August 27, 2015, 11:53:55 am »

I think you mean mountains, and I wouldn't count on that yet. Keep in mind that our portable anti tank didn't actually get better.

tactical rail alone is a waste of design. if we want it, we should get something more complex attached to it, or use a revision.

ebbor, could you clarify if your proposed car is unarmed? it should get at least an autocannon if it is to substitute our old cars.

so, the serious proposals are...

Armored car
High altitude interceptor
APC


the high altitude fighter follows a strategy of gaining and securing total air superiority

the armored car instead is made to get a wide ranging upgrade in the jungle and desert, I guess, replacing our old cars.

the APC instead is devoted to increasing our mobility and protecting our infantry from small arms, both very useful in the jungle and in the cities.

What do you guys think? the war isn't over, we still need to pick a design. Personally, I think we should strive for air superiority, since our bomber is giving us such a great advantage.

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Re: Arms Race, Arstotzka: 1932 Design
« Reply #2781 on: August 27, 2015, 12:04:54 pm »

It's not my car. It's Tryrar's.
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Re: Arms Race, Arstotzka: 1932 Design
« Reply #2782 on: August 27, 2015, 12:07:28 pm »

ah, sorry. Well, the question stands.

anyway, what is your take on the strategy to follow, and therefore the design to consider?

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Re: Arms Race, Arstotzka: 1932 Design
« Reply #2783 on: August 27, 2015, 12:10:54 pm »

Note that it's not an armored car so much as a light tank(I'd have used the armored car naming scheme if it was an armored car). And yes, it mounts a redesigned turret compared to our armored car(and actually protects the gunner) and carries the same AC-18 it does. It also has a co-axial 1924 as well as one pintle-mounted so we're not wasting autocannon shots on infantry. Here's the updated proposal:


Spoiler: AS-LT32 (click to show/hide)
« Last Edit: August 27, 2015, 12:25:35 pm by tryrar »
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No. I suppose there are similarities, but I'm fairly certain angry birds doesn't let me charge into a battalion of knights with a car made of circular saws.

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Re: Arms Race, Arstotzka: 1932 Design
« Reply #2784 on: August 27, 2015, 02:16:48 pm »

I'm not sure about that new armored car. The current one is not exactly obsolete.

How about going a bit more theoretical

AS-DRRT-32

A directional radio reciever and transmitter. The system can be utilized to find the origin of a radio source. Hence, with 2 systems, you can triangulate enemy broadcasts. The system can also be used with our planes. A beacon can transmit from airfields, allowing for nightlandings. In addition, two devices can be combined. By using 1 directed antenna as a guidance beam, and then a second beam which crosses the beam above the target.
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« Reply #2785 on: August 27, 2015, 02:23:46 pm »

I'm not sure about that new armored car. The current one is not exactly obsolete.

How about going a bit more theoretical

AS-DRRT-32

A directional radio reciever and transmitter. The system can be utilized to find the origin of a radio source. Hence, with 2 systems, you can triangulate enemy broadcasts. The system can also be used with our planes. A beacon can transmit from airfields, allowing for nightlandings. In addition, two devices can be combined. By using 1 directed antenna as a guidance beam, and then a second beam which crosses the beam above the target.

IT'S NOT AN ARMORED CAR. It's a light tank!

As for effectiveness versus our armored cars, it brings to the table diesel fuel tech, has a dedicated(ish) radioman (the commander doubles as the radio operator), and also gives us electric turret drives and an attempt to make better/cheaper optics. With diesel tech, even turbocharging would not increase fuel usage(and oil costs) that much(diesel is what decreased their oil costs for their tank), and turbos perform better in diesel applications(they don't experience much turbo lag). The only downside is that unless we put in a real high performance engine with a high oil cost it might not be as fast as our armored cars.
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No. I suppose there are similarities, but I'm fairly certain angry birds doesn't let me charge into a battalion of knights with a car made of circular saws.

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Re: Arms Race, Arstotzka: 1932 Design
« Reply #2786 on: August 27, 2015, 02:24:42 pm »

if directional, I suppose we can also use it to not be intercepted? not that it is a problem right now.

It is nice, indeed. And it will allow us more night time operations. Still, I really want to bridge the fighter gap and ensure total control of the skies. you might have noticed Sensei isn't giving a final word on the bomb, which means blocking the main delivery method is a priority. Furthermore, it also helps with the goal of allowing our bombers longer and safer operations, since they can fly escorted at high altitudes.

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Re: Arms Race, Arstotzka: 1932 Design
« Reply #2787 on: August 27, 2015, 02:55:06 pm »


Spoiler: AS-LT32 (click to show/hide)

+1 we need a good light tank and several successful ones used only autocannons, our current one is not effective thanks to the horrible armor I gave it.

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Re: Arms Race, Arstotzka: 1932 Design
« Reply #2788 on: August 27, 2015, 02:55:50 pm »

What about a glider for airborne goodness? Something towed by our bomber, which can deliver 20 men with their weaponry (including MG, AC , RPG or mortars) or one armored car behind enemy lines?
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Re: Arms Race, Arstotzka: 1932 Design
« Reply #2789 on: August 27, 2015, 05:26:04 pm »

throwing my support behind ebbors radio system.
I don't see the need for the light tank, nor the fighter. However, if we combine this with a gear revision for paratroopers, we can theoretically find and then target their command areas.
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