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[andrea]

err... expense credits don't work that way. expense credits make a design ( not a tech) one step cheaper for one turn. We weren't revising anything.

[Kot]

err... expense credits don't work that way. expense credits make a design ( not a tech) one step cheaper for one turn. We weren't revising anything.

You saw nothing. Also it just proves that nobody reads this, since you noticed it only now.

[Andres]

An assault rifle carbine (like the M4) may help us more than an assault rifle. Assault rifles focus on short-medium to medium range, carbines on short to short-medium, and SMGs on short. We're lacking in short and short-medium so an assault carbine would be the best thing to design. The battle reports indicate we've been doing well in Medium range so a full assault rifle isn't really needed.

Glory to Arstotzka.

[andrea]

don't we already have a carabine?

[Andres]

Our carbine is semi-automatic. The battle reports says that it works pretty well in Medium range.

Glory to Arstotzka.

[Kot]

We're lacking in short and short-medium? We have our SMGs and just got grenades...
(Also I presume we're talking about next year, right?)

[tryrar]

We're lacking in short and short-medium? We have our SMGs and just got grenades...
(Also I presume we're talking about next year, right?)

Right. Though replacing all our rifles and carbines and SMGs with one or two guns might be useful(if only for GM tracking purposes )

[Andres]

We're lacking in short and short-medium? We have our SMGs and just got grenades...

Our SMGs are Expensive. Unlike machine guns, SMGs are supposed to be cheap and many of our soldiers should have them. They're not, unfortunately, so we're lacking rather badly in that area. Grenades are not primary weapons.

Glory to Arstotzka.

[Kot]

We're lacking in short and short-medium? We have our SMGs and just got grenades...

Our SMGs are Expensive. Unlike machine guns, SMGs are supposed to be cheap and many of our soldiers should have them. They're not, unfortunately, so we're lacking rather badly in that area. Grenades are not primary weapons.

Glory to Arstotzka.

Make them cheaper, not make a completly new design, we could use design for something else.
http://Also I said, take enough grenades and you have new primary weapon.
EDIT: Again, you saw nothing.

[tryrar]

a little formatting hiccup there

[Andres]

Make them cheaper, not make a completly new design, we could use design for something else.

That's what I've been saying ever since we designed the damn things in 1916 but each time everyone's just gone on about how useless a cheap SMG would be when all evidence has pointed to the opposite. People seem mildly interested in the assault rifle idea, though, so that's what I'm pushing now.
I'm of the opinion we should revise our plane engines to use less Oil. If we do so, both our dive bomber and our heavy fighter become cheap. We'll become indomitable in the skies and we can destroy three times as many tanks with our bombers. Of course, everyone else thinks that a cheaper turbocharger for our tank is more important.

Glory to Arstotzka.

[tryrar]

Make them cheaper, not make a completly new design, we could use design for something else.

That's what I've been saying ever since we designed the damn things in 1916 but each time everyone's just gone on about how useless a cheap SMG would be when all evidence has pointed to the opposite. People seem mildly interested in the assault rifle idea, though, so that's what I'm pushing now.
I'm of the opinion we should revise our plane engines to use less Oil. If we do so, both our dive bomber and our heavy fighter become cheap. We'll become indomitable in the skies and we can destroy three times as many tanks with our bombers. Of course, everyone else thinks that a cheaper turbocharger for our tank or a god damn boat is more important.

Glory to Arstotzka.

If we do a general engine revision that includes trying to make turbos cheaper as well as making our plane engines more fuel efficient, I'd sign up for that. Next turn, though, as radios are critical right now.

[Andres]

Don't get me wrong, a merely Expensive tank would be a great thing, but getting three times as many planes out there would be even better. Our tank uses a completely different engine to the planes so we won't be able to do both in the same Revision phase.

Glory to Arstotzka.

EDIT: We've also got our tank destroyers to help our tanks out on the field. Getting our tanks cheaper at this stage really isn't that crucial.

[Kot]

Of course, everyone else thinks that a cheaper turbocharger for our tank is more important.

It's necessary that we get cheaper tanks so we'll need to use our Expense credit on it.

You what? I smell... sikrit agints.
Though I actually think I may agree with you. The planes are what is really useful now, being one of few things that can kill their heavy tanks, and are generally pretty nice thing to have. We could use the credit on them.

[Andres]

Of course, everyone else thinks that a cheaper turbocharger for our tank is more important.

It's necessary that we get cheaper tanks so we'll need to use our Expense credit on it.

You what?

It's necessary that we get cheaper tanks this turn because they have an Expense credit too and they're likely to use it on their tank. We need to develop radios before we can develop cheap aircraft and the temporarily cheaper tanks will hold the line long enough for us to do so.

Though I actually think I may agree with you. The planes are what is really useful now, being one of few things that can kill their heavy tanks, and are generally pretty nice thing to have. We could use the credit on them.

We have two plane designs and we can only use the credit on one. It's better to get them cheaper with a Revision since we can do both at the same time. (They use the same engine.)

Glory to Arstotzka.

EDIT: Cease production of the 1910 Mag. Our 1910 covers our HMG costs and our 1924 covers our LMG costs. The 1910 Mag was only made to serve as an LMG, after all.