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[Ukrainian Ranger]

10ebbor10, Andres, why do you want to leave us without the tank this turn? replacing advanchjed engine with simplier is a trivial task. slow tank is better than no tank

New order: At night in the Jungle, mortars can fire flares to signal dive bombers and allow them to hit emplacements or tanks.

BTW, +1 to this

[Andres]

10ebbor10, Andres, why do you want to leave us without the tank this turn? replacing advanchjed engine with simplier is a trivial task. slow tank is better than no tank

The first thing we're going to revise on the plane engine is the fuel injection. Fixing the fuel injection there will fix the fuel injection in the tank, making the tank cheaper and thus more numerous. The tank will then become Very Expensive and will achieve numerical parity with the Moskurg Breaker.
After we fix the fuel injection, we'll increase the efficiency of the plane engines so that both the DB and the HF become cheap. If we choose to fix the turbo instead, we get Expensive tanks. Two cheaper vehicles is better than one cheaper vehicle.

Glory to Arstotzka.

[Ukrainian Ranger]

The first thing we're going to revise on the plane engine is the fuel injection. Fixing the fuel injection there will fix the fuel injection in the tank, making the tank cheaper and thus more numerous. The tank will then become Very Expensive and will achieve numerical parity with the Moskurg Breaker.

If it will be succesful... what if not?

[Andres]

The first thing we're going to revise on the plane engine is the fuel injection. Fixing the fuel injection there will fix the fuel injection in the tank, making the tank cheaper and thus more numerous. The tank will then become Very Expensive and will achieve numerical parity with the Moskurg Breaker.

If it will be succesful... what if not?

Same thing that would happen if we tried to fix the fuel injection with the tank in focus. The two options have equal chances of success. The option I suggested has a bigger reward if we succeed, though.

Glory to Arstotzka.

[Ukrainian Ranger]

note that tank option has important line in the end -  If cheapening is not possible, substitute with a simpler engine similar to that in our trucks.

[andrea]

the tank revision however has a safe minimum: changing the great engine we have now with a conventional, less powerful one.

besides, cheap turbocharger means we can apply that to our planes as well, improving overall performance.
planes cheaper than 2 oil honestly seem a thing of the past right now. engine power demand is going to increase as the demand for performance increases.

[Andres]

note that tank option has important line in the end -  If cheapening is not possible, substitute with a simpler engine similar to that in our trucks.

This is actually riskier than fixing the fuel injection. The tank is engineered and designed entirely around its current engine, from its weight to its shape to its suspension. Getting an entirely different engine means changing everything else about the tank.

Glory to Arstotzka.

[Ukrainian Ranger]

It will definetely hurt tank perfomance, it is still better than no tank at all (ok, one tank)

I see no risk at all. It is not like original tank version will be erased

Edit: And trying to make the fighter\dive bomber take as much oil as a civilian car looks dubious

[Andres]

They managed to give their medium tank the same Oil use as a civilian car, so why not? I reckon our planes are significantly lighter than tanks, especially considering their aluminium construction.

Glory to Arstotzka.

[andrea]

well, that is true, they got a fairly heavy thing to use only 2 oil... but how good of a roll was required? it seems very dubious that it would succeed.

[Ukrainian Ranger]

They got a diesel engine. If you want -1 oil, get our own diesel engine. BTW, it is not a suitable engine for aviation.

[andrea]

if I recall correctly, diesel engines are generally quite heavy.
they also work well with fuel injection, by the way.

edit: I am going to go to bed soon. Since revision happens during my night, I leave my vote and proposal to you, UR.

[Ukrainian Ranger]

anyway, we got two plans, both got two vote

one is
1st priority - cheaper fuel injection
2nd priority - reduce oil consumption of our engines

second is

1st priority - cheaper fuel injection.
2nd priority - cheaper turbo.
3rd Create a cheap tank version with truck engine accepting reduced performance.

How about a compromise?

1st priority - cheaper fuel injection.
2nd priority - Reduce oil consumption of our engines
3rd priority - Cheaper turbo.
4th priority - Create cheaper tank version powered by truck engine accepting reduced performance.

Even if four look little too much.

[tryrar]

anyway, we got two plans, both got two vote

one is
1st priority - cheaper fuel injection
2nd priority - reduce oil consumption of our engines

second is

1st priority - cheaper fuel injection.
2nd priority - cheaper turbo.
3rd Create a cheap tank version with truck engine accepting reduced performance.

How about a compromise?

1st priority - cheaper fuel injection.
2nd priority - Reduce oil consumption of our engines
3rd priority - Cheaper turbo.
4th priority - Create cheaper tank version powered by truck engine accepting reduced performance.

Even if four look little too much.

I support the compromise.

Edit: I'll also add if the compromise works, we apply one or both techs to aany engine that isn't already fuel injected/turbo(if it makes sense in that application).

Edit Edit:A good way to make cheaper fuel injection is to use Constant Flow Fuel Injection(the linked article explaisn what that is). With it, we only need one pump.

[Sensei]

Your engineers set to work trying to perfect their complicated motor, and reduce the number of steps involved in its manufacture.

You succeed in making the fuel injectors less prone to flooding the engine. There is talk of eliminating redundant pumps with a fuel recycling system, but your engineers don't get a working version this year. The Turbo and Injectors both stay expensive.

This is unfortunate for your tank, which isn't easily retrofitted with a different engine in time. On the bright side, Arstotzka has the fastest race cars in Forenia thanks to your work.