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[andrea]

same. Shall we update the proposal?

[10ebbor10]

Whoops, didn't notice that. Feel free to update

[tryrar]

same. Shall we update the proposal?

yeah, let's update the proposal to use 20x100mm rounds, since most of us are in agreement on that

[Ukrainian Ranger]

Still not enough for a tank gun but makes it too heavy and overkill damage for biplanes.

I just want to point that we either get 35mm tank gun or 20mm heavy machinegun\borderline autocannon that is more advanced than Stallion . If we go 20mm, then we go aircraft route and should forget about tanks for some time. Alternatively we may get heavier 20mm autocannon for light tank but then it is too heavy for aircrafts and not portable at all.

Our own lighter Stallion is rather useful. And it should be lighter even if we fail with API, because we have huge small arms experience.

With AP bullets we will rape their current armor and will not have our pants down, should enemy design an aircraft. Also, I like it for armored car from truck idea that I mentioned earlier.

and lol. I actually prefer 20*70mm Because It is lighter and its bullets have same weight as Stallion's bullets

[Sheb]

Why no one loves boat?

Also, I have a proposal for propaganda:

[10ebbor10]

Why no one loves boat?

No idea.

It should be noted that said boat would have a serious advantage in the Jungle. It can be armored support in the swamps.

[Sheb]

Plus, whole new front. AND it can arguably help with the logistics from the plain.

[Hiddenleafguy]

Actually now that you say it like that, if we take the jungle then they will lose their tanks. VOTE SWITCH: boat version!!

[10ebbor10]

Actually now that you say it like that, if we take the jungle then they will lose their tanks. VOTE SWITCH: boat version!!

Uhm, no they won't.

They get their ores from the mountain.

[Hiddenleafguy]

I meant oil, they will become very expensive, and if we take the plains we shall cut off their oil, then we can just develop a sniper rifle.

[Aseaheru]

They will still have 2 oil, but if we drive them out of everywhere they will only have one ore...

[10ebbor10]

I meant oil, they will become very expensive, and if we take the plains we shall cut off their oil, then we can just develop a sniper rifle.

Nope we won't

They get their resources from their homecountry.

[andrea]

you know what? I have no idea of what to vote anymore. I'll withdraw my vote.

Spoiler: proposals (click to show/hide)

AS-AT18-35  (High velocity 35 mm tank gun)
+ Should be an effective solution against enemy tanks for the near future
+ Precursor to medium-light tank
+ Largest sensible name yet

AS-AC1918 (20x100 mm Autocannon)
+ Should be an effective solution against enemy tanks for the near future
+ Finally resolves the fact that we don't actually have a machine gun anyone can carry
+ Early anti-aircraft/ Potential aircraft armament.

AS-R18  (Bolt action sniper rifle)
+ Should be adequate against enemy armor
+ Good in mountains and other places were snipers are useful

AS-RH18-320
+ Can attack enemy resource production in the desert
+ Battleship precursor
+ Really big gun

Arstotzka-class Gunboat
- No numbers in the name
+ Creates navy

AS-SAR17. (Semi-auto Battle Rifle)
+ Resolves our infantry disadvantage
+ Unlikely to fail, considering all precursor technologies were already developed

Spoiler: votes (click to show/hide)

AS-AT18-35 : UR(1), Hiddenleafguy
AS-AC18-20: 10ebbor10, Andres (2), Asea, tryrar
Arstotzka-class Gunboat : Sheb
AS-SAR17 : Andres (1),
AS-R18 : UR(2)

Since everyone who voted for the autocannon wanted 20x10, I updated to that. Unless the bolded part was you switching the vote to the autocannon, Ukrainian ranger?

@sheb Nice poster. adds a bit of color to our propaganda. I didn't add any picture to my newspaper because I wasn't sure if preexisting materials would be allowed and I lackartistic skills.

[VoidSlayer]

If we develop a tank gun this turn, we can look to redesign our existing super heavy tank to use it.

Also if you are going to use rank choice voting put it in a simple form like this.

My Vote Choices in order:
1.AS-AT18-35
2.AS-SAR17. (Semi-auto Battle Rifle)
3.AS-AC1918 (20x100 mm Autocannon)

[10ebbor10]

Also if you are going to use rank choice voting put it in a simple form like this.

That makes it harder, not easier.

Because then you have to look for votes all over the thread, and count them.