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[Andres]

So, our current problems :

- Close Combat encounters
     - Hard to use sidearm
- Mountain Fighting
- Hot weather fighting
- Resource supply

While Artillery is nice, I don't think it's going to help with any of these. I mean, it'll be too heavy to utilize in the Jungle or Mountains, and a cannon is not good in close quarter combat, except by eliminating the close quarters in question.

It's true, while mortars can help soften up the enemy they'll still beat us. Our poor-quality pistols just can't stand up against them.

We actually do well in mountain fighting, it's just that capturing the actual mines are difficult due to enemy machine guns. Considering we still have more Ore than them, a stalemate in this area is acceptable.

Hot weather fighting is certainly a problem but we're a far cry from invading Moskurg and honestly, what do we have to gain from the swamp?

To further improve our resource supply we'll need more transports which means more Oil. We can hope that our developments this time helps us get some or we can build a better oil pump, but I think our short-range crisis is more urgent.

Design a fragmentation hand grenade. When our soldiers get to the trenches, they can throw these easily beforehand and kill many Moskurgs. It can also be used in urban areas to clear rooms. We can revise it later if we have to, but if we get lucky we can instead revise our pistol.

Glory to Arstotzka.

[10ebbor10]

If we design a grenade now, I propose we use our revision to instead aid with resource production.

[Andres]

What would we revise?

Glory to Arstotzka.

[10ebbor10]

I'd assume our steam locomotives. If we install preheaters or conduit engines, we can increase fuel efficiency dramatically (20% at least), while increasing performance and reducing track damage. In addition, preheating tech can also impact local energy production, and should thus free up additional oil, assuming we use oil-fired power stations.

[tryrar]

+1 to simple grenade

[Sheb]

Shouldnt we wait for the battle results, to see what are our weak points?

[10ebbor10]

Battle results are in the OOC thread.

[Sheb]

Indeed. Well, the good news is that they will have to spend their revision phase on their locomotives engines.

I think some kind of light, reliable tube mortar would be a fine addition. An equivalent to the Stokes mortar is can be carried up a mountain, doesnt jam in the heat, is cheap and would be a good addition to trench warfare. Let us blow their stallion!

I also think we should think up a better naming scheme. We can use the revision phase to either improve our sidearm (make it an autopistol?) or our ressources.

Spoiler: AS-1911 8cm Light Mortar (click to show/hide)

Tube mortar that can be carried and served by two men. A simple tube with a bipod and a plate at the base (to absord recoil), the AS-1911 is fired by dropping the bomb, fitted before firing with an impact-sensitive primer- into the tube.

[Knave]

Okay so I see 2 courses of action that we can take:

1) design an arty or mortar type weapon and then revise our pistol in hopes of closing the Close Combat gap we're currently facing.
2) design a grenade for a bigger CC gap closer, and revise our steam engine to keep up economically.

[Sheb]

Well, the economy doesn't seem that important so far. Also, we can hope to make enough gains in the mountains to get extra ore.

[Aseaheru]

 Mortars would help with trench warfare aswell, what with plunging fire... I support the mortar and improving pistol project.

(also, how the hell is fragmentation grenades not a thing in the world at large? They where aground before the civil war, albeit mostly improvised)

[10ebbor10]

Yup. Speaking about improvising, the mortar shell can make a decent improvized grenade.


+1 for infantry mortar

[Sensei]

It looks like the majority are in favor of a light mortar. Time to start the fireworks!

AS-1911 8cm Mortar: This is a light mortar, consisting of a simple tube mounted on a tripod, and mortar shells which are dropped into the tube and fire off when they hit the bottom. The shells themselves are the more important part of the weapon. They are sort of like rocket-propelled grenades, consisting of a metal shell around some explosive, and a primer and propellant at the back. The explosives themselves are a young technology though, the shells don't fly very far and occasionally misfire, lying undetonated or exploding early.

You have gained the technology Mortars, Solid Explosives and Propellants [Unreliable]

You may now revise!

[Knave]

The explosives themselves are a young technology though, the shells don't fly very far and occasionally misfire, lying undetonated or exploding early.

That should lead to some high levels of !FUN!

okay three things that I would consider revised:

1) Revise the pistol to jam less and be more reliable
2) Revise the Steam engine to be more efficient
3) Revise the mortar to be less... explody

All three are pretty important in my mind. We definitely need to close the Close Combat advantage they currently have, but I worry that if they upgrade their steam engine they'll start gaining an economic advantage.

[Aseaheru]

Lets deal with these mortar rounds first. Because, well, this just isint safe.