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Author Topic: Arms Race, Arstotzka: 1935 Production  (Read 162263 times)

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Re: Arms Race, Arstotzka: 1934 Revision
« Reply #3045 on: September 08, 2015, 06:43:19 pm »

You rap on the butt of the gun with your hand a few times, and the knob comes loose, falling by chance back into Automatic, where it was before. You shake the gun back in forth in your hands like a paint can, and the knob comes loose and latches into the single fire setting. You knock it against your desk and it comes loose again, falling into Automatic. You take the gun down to the range and fire off a magazine all at once- you can see the knob wiggling but it stays in place. Then you fire the gun while shaking it, and it stops almost immediately as the knob falls into single fire. You usually wouldn't swing it around that quickly, but it could probably happen to a soldier on the field. While walking back to the office, you stumble and drop the gun. It goes off when it hits the ground and shatters the window to Aseaheru's office on the second floor.

Oh, and reflector/reflex sights will need to be a design action, or at least be designed with a new gun.

Alright, yeah, that sounds like a real safety issue, so supporting the revision instead.
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No. I suppose there are similarities, but I'm fairly certain angry birds doesn't let me charge into a battalion of knights with a car made of circular saws.

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Re: Arms Race, Arstotzka: 1934 Revision
« Reply #3046 on: September 08, 2015, 07:21:45 pm »

While walking back to the office, you stumble and drop the gun. It goes off when it hits the ground and shatters the window to Aseaheru's office on the second floor.

Well, thats the last time I am gonna take munitions through my window. Requesting an underground office.
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« Reply #3047 on: September 09, 2015, 12:42:32 am »

The underground office is where  we keep kashyyk locked I think.
That rifle is wonderful but it has one single horrible flaw that makes it useless. Lets fix that. As for uneven weight just add  a counterweight.

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« Reply #3048 on: September 09, 2015, 01:07:11 am »

Highest priority is fixing the AR34's select fire bolt. Medium priority is fixing muzzle drift. Lowest priority is getting a carbine variant chambered for the 5.45×39mm round.

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Re: Arms Race, Arstotzka: 1934 Revision
« Reply #3049 on: September 09, 2015, 01:20:19 am »

 As a counter proposal for the same thing, Highest priority is fixing the bolt, and then in descending order is: fixing muzzle drift, making sure it works in all climates and conditions, creating a carbine variant, creating a LMG variant, creating a marksman variant, and finally creating a staggered column magazine.

 We should not need another new cartridge. Between this and the SMG-o-wonder it should be fine. Also, creating a carbine variant would be a design action...
« Last Edit: September 09, 2015, 02:01:21 am by Aseaheru »
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« Reply #3050 on: September 09, 2015, 01:31:18 am »

Also, creating a carbine variant would be a design action...
No it wouldn't. Moskurg got their assault rifle carbine in a Revision last turn with their Design being responsible for their body armour.

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« Reply #3051 on: September 09, 2015, 02:00:19 am »

 I have a feeling we may have wasted three design actions here an- Nope, Im an idiot and misremembering shit.

 Yah, Im all for a carbine, but not another caliber.

And now, updated stuff.

As a counter proposal for AR revision: Highest priority is fixing the bolt, and then in descending order is: fixing muzzle drift, making sure it works in all climates and conditions, creating a carbine variant, creating a LMG variant, creating a marksman variant, and finally creating a staggered column magazine.

 Logistical easing by using the same shit in EVERYTHING!
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Re: Arms Race, Arstotzka: 1934 Revision
« Reply #3052 on: September 09, 2015, 02:45:49 am »

We already got an LMG.
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« Reply #3053 on: September 09, 2015, 02:52:57 am »

We already got an LMG.

This. I vote for the original proposal of Fixing the select fire bolt, fixing the muzzle drift, and Creating a staggered column 20-round box mag. This is all we need to do and we'll have a good 9infantry weapon that'll replace everything but our scope-equipped Mosins and smgs for standard weapons.
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Re: Arms Race, Arstotzka: 1934 Revision
« Reply #3054 on: September 09, 2015, 02:53:24 am »

That rifle is wonderful but it has one single horrible flaw that makes it useless. Lets fix that. As for uneven weight just add  a counterweight.
How about a mirrored version of the gun taped to the side. The recoil will cancel itself out. :D
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« Reply #3055 on: September 09, 2015, 02:53:46 am »

Yah, Im all for a carbine, but not another caliber.
We kinda need it to be a smaller caliber if we want it to be a carbine, or at least if we want it to be effective. Down-sizing isn't that difficult, though. The F14A carbine and the MK47A are a testament to that.

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« Reply #3056 on: September 09, 2015, 03:01:43 am »

We can add a carabine to the end. Still, priority is a good rifle.

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« Reply #3057 on: September 09, 2015, 03:31:44 am »

Yeah, we need that ore.
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« Reply #3058 on: September 09, 2015, 03:42:32 am »

We don't really need to, but having it would be nice.
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« Reply #3059 on: September 09, 2015, 04:01:20 am »

I think neither side really needs that ore. It would be crucial only if moskurg lost the mountain ore, which I am sure they won't. Unless they are wasting all their designs.
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