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Author Topic: Arms Race, Arstotzka: 1935 Production  (Read 162724 times)

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Re: Arms Race, Arstotzka: 1931 Production
« Reply #2520 on: August 17, 2015, 02:43:34 pm »

Okay how about a lighter IFV?
What about stretching a AS-MV21-AL and fitting it with turbos?
That could be a revision. 
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Re: Arms Race, Arstotzka: 1931 Production
« Reply #2521 on: August 17, 2015, 02:44:15 pm »

Yeah the number of passengers is also too high.

I will come up with a new design next turn taking all this into consideration, thanks!

Anyway, my next iteration of the bomber.

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+1, how many crew?

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Re: Arms Race, Arstotzka: 1931 Production
« Reply #2522 on: August 17, 2015, 02:49:38 pm »

 I am gonna guess four or five.

 Pilot, tail gunner, ventral gunner, bombardier/navigator/radio operator(which probably will be split up if it is a five-crew craft). I am also going to guess that it is going to be a narrow body aircraft.
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Re: Arms Race, Arstotzka: 1931 Production
« Reply #2523 on: August 17, 2015, 02:56:52 pm »

Imho, we should have two pilots.
Pilot, co-pilot/radio operator, bombardier/navigator, ventral gunner, tail gunner.
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« Reply #2524 on: August 17, 2015, 03:09:56 pm »

That just seems like a lot of people if it is going to be high altitude and have a good speed and bomb capacity.

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Re: Arms Race, Arstotzka: 1931 Production
« Reply #2525 on: August 17, 2015, 03:20:58 pm »

Nah. You're going to need at least four (pilot, 2 gunners, bombardier/navigator/radio operator) but that leaves us only with one pilot. Having only one pilot is a fine way to get your craft down very fast. The squishiest part of a plane is people, and this way if one pilot dies, the other one can still lead the plane safely to home. Also, four-six people is about right for a medium bomber (by medium bomber, I mean pure medium bomber, not those american big attack planes or Soviet 2 people bombers that fell down faster than they could produce it (and it's something, considering we're talking Russians here).
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Re: Arms Race, Arstotzka: 1931 Production
« Reply #2526 on: August 17, 2015, 03:43:13 pm »

+1 for bomber/with 5 crew(Pilot, copilot/navigator, bombardier, and two gunners). Also, for our fighter revision, how about this:

  • New new enclosed cockpit with included gunners sight and improved sightlines as well as retractable landing gear
  • Delete the nose mounted AC18 and eliminate the heavy propshaft. Add a new turbocharged fuel injected engine and two 1924s connected to an interrupter gear.
  • Remove the 4 wing mounted 1924s and add 2 AC18s and ammo. This new weapon arrangement should be equivilant or superior than the old arrangement while still generally being the same weight.
« Last Edit: August 17, 2015, 04:02:12 pm by tryrar »
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Re: Arms Race, Arstotzka: 1931 Production
« Reply #2527 on: August 17, 2015, 04:02:11 pm »

That's practically a complete redesign though. Also, you forgot retractable gear.

I'd rather not double down on the air. I'd argue for an ammo revision.

On a side note : Wing mounted cannon => Gunpod?
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« Reply #2528 on: August 17, 2015, 04:04:37 pm »

That's practically a complete redesign though. Also, you forgot retractable gear.

I'd rather not double down on the air. I'd argue for an ammo revision.

On a side note : Wing mounted cannon => Gunpod?

Did not, and you can't prove it :p. And no, not gunpods unless there's no other way to fit 2 AC18s in the wing. As for ammo, how about at the same time we're rearranging the Ac18s we fix the re-calibration problem for them? That should at least let us used mixed belts...
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No. I suppose there are similarities, but I'm fairly certain angry birds doesn't let me charge into a battalion of knights with a car made of circular saws.

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Re: Arms Race, Arstotzka: 1931 Production
« Reply #2529 on: August 17, 2015, 04:11:40 pm »

I'm afraid that's inherent in the way they work. Same as the fact they can't use interruptor gears.

It did give us a light, awesome autocannon.
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« Reply #2530 on: August 17, 2015, 04:12:33 pm »

+1 on bomber

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« Reply #2531 on: August 17, 2015, 04:13:01 pm »

I'm afraid that's inherent in the way they work. Same as the fact they can't use interruptor gears.

It did give us a light, awesome autocannon.

Ok, got it. Still would like my design rather than ammo revisions.
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No. I suppose there are similarities, but I'm fairly certain angry birds doesn't let me charge into a battalion of knights with a car made of circular saws.

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Re: Arms Race, Arstotzka: 1931 Production
« Reply #2532 on: August 17, 2015, 04:18:07 pm »

We're unintentionally (are we?) making He 112 B. I am pleased.

As for the ammo revision, Minengeschoß or schluss!
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Re: Arms Race, Arstotzka: 1931 Production
« Reply #2533 on: August 17, 2015, 04:27:22 pm »

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A high altitude fast bomber. It utilizes a geodetic airframe, which consists of a tight web of aluminum beams covered with doped fabric. This structure is both light, easy on the amount of materials required, and high resistant to damage (and was pioneered on airships for this reason). Numerous frames can break before the plane looses structural integrity, and even a direct hit by a flak cannon need not be fatal. (Downside is that the complexity of the frame makes it harder to change the physical dimensions of the craft)

The plane is powered by 3 supercharged fuel injected engines, 1 in the nose and 2 in the wings. Giving it the range to bomb Moskurgian cities and the altitude and speed required to bypass it's defenses.

The craft is to be capable of carrying between 1 and 2 ton of bombs internally, dropped accurately using a bomb sight. Defenses are the placement of one 20 mm autocannon in the tail of the aircraft and another mounted ventrally.
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But drop the tail cannon if it hampers bomb-carrying ability.

I believe this is what the votes are currently for?
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Re: Arms Race, Arstotzka: 1931 Production
« Reply #2534 on: August 17, 2015, 04:28:46 pm »

I do believe so.
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