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[10ebbor10]

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[andrea]

since there is significant opposition to giving the brits anything useful ,  we can give them the T15. Insist on its historical value. ( it is the first tank ever deployed on a battlefield after all. Nevermind its huge load of flaws. And it did do a great job in the first years before it got even more obsolete than it already was.

[Kot]

We can only support one side of civil war, I belive.

No, we can send only one design to each faction.

[10ebbor10]

I propose :

Chinese nationalists : We're probably going to lose this. We should give the AS-1924. Giving them 1910's means giving the expense credit to the enemy. The 1924 is at least superior in weight, whereas the 1910 is inferior in all aspects.

Chinese communists : Provide our mortar (speaking of which, no updated mortar shells   )

British : T 15

[Kot]

I propose :

Chinese nationalists : We're probably going to lose this. We should give the AS-1924. Giving them 1910's means giving the expense credit to the enemy. The 1924 is at least superior in weight, whereas the 1910 is inferior in all aspects.

Price. Give them 1910.
Their MGs are all expensive, I think, so no way we lose this.

Chinese communists : Provide our mortar (speaking of which, no updated mortar shells   )

I have no idea what they're sending, but it might be wiser to give them our grenades (because grenades are always good) or RPGs.

[10ebbor10]

Our mortar served us far better as an anti- emplacement thing. Dropping more shells from greater range is a very decent advantage.

As  for the MG's, Moskurg insists that's a GM error. So it really depends what side is chosen there.

If the Moskurgian weapon is expensive, as it should be due to beltfed tech being expensive, then the 1910. Otherwise 1924.

[Andres]

Shit. Forgot to change my vote to getting HEAT. Now I see that we wasted our Revision on rocket-assisted artillery shells. God damn. Remind me again why we chose that over HEAT? HEAT helps us in the Desert and the Jungle while RA shells only help us in the Desert. I only wish I could go to sleep without getting disappointed the next day.

Glory to Arstotzka.

[Kot]

If the Moskurgian weapon is expensive, as it should be due to beltfed tech being expensive, then the 1910. Otherwise 1924.

The Moskurgian weapon costs 2 ore, so does our 1910. So this kinda makes sense. Okay.

[andrea]

because our shots can already pierce any armor they have without trouble. In fact, I think a battle report said that one of our tank shots always destroys their tank. their shaped charges were a big deal only because we have better armor(sloped) and they have smaller guns and lacked AP rounds.

also, RAP should help in the desert more than the jungle, I don't think artillery range is much of a problem in the jungle, while it definitely is in the desert

[Andres]

because our shots can already pierce any armor they have without trouble. In fact, I think a battle report said that one of our tank shots always destroys their tank. their shaped charges were a big deal only because we have better armor(sloped) and they have smaller guns and lacked AP rounds.

It wasn't just about developing HEAT. If we revised our rocket to use HEAT, we could've also used the opportunity to better shape it and stabilise it. We get better destructive power and rocketry experience.

also, RAP should help in the desert more than the jungle, I don't think artillery range is much of a problem in the jungle, while it definitely is in the desert

That was an accident. I meant to write that it would only help in the Desert.

[Kot]

It wasn't just about developing HEAT. If we revised our rocket to use HEAT, we could've also used the opportunity to better shape it and stabilise it. We get better destructive power and rocketry experience.

Our rockets DO use HEAT tho. Shaped charge means HEAT in our case. The only thing they don't use is aerodynamic cones.

[10ebbor10]

Well, if it's any consolation, the enemy Rhino doesn't use HEAT, or even APHE.

Honestly, I'm still wondering how that thing is killing our tanks?

[andrea]

the only reason the rhino pierced anything was that nobody used proper armor back then.

[VoidSlayer]

Wait no, we just got rocket assisted artillery, send that to the Chinese forces, they want something useful against emplacements, what is better then relatively accurate very long range artillery?

[Sheb]

Send the RPG to the Chinese. It's light, cheap, great for all the family and good for guerilla and the like. Mortars are more efficient for stuff like trenches, and they're not fighting in that.

As for the Nationalist, send the AS-1924. No need sending a sub-par MG.