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[10ebbor10]

The problem is that that depends on our artillery, which in itself is pretty much obsolete, having a far lower firerate than their larger cannons.

In addition, self propulsion lowers the useable payload.

[andrea]

not if we make the projectile bigger. And while it depends on our artillery, we can use it on all future artillery designs we make. it is a prjectile type, not a weapon on its own. Once developed, it can be used wherever it applies.

[Kot]

The problem is that that depends on our artillery, which in itself is pretty much obsolete, having a far lower firerate than their larger cannons.

In addition, self propulsion lowers the useable payload.

Range > firepower/rate of fire.
Also, that doesn't mean we have to scrap our previous ammo, and when we make new artillery we will have good projectile tech ready.
Fucking ninjas and WARNING NEW REPLY.

[tryrar]

I'm actually dubious we can do RAP as a revision though, so I'm sticking to Heat/fix our shaped charges to fly better.

[andrea]

it would be nice to know if it can be achieved as a revision. I would think so, but a post by Sensei would settle the discussion.

If impossible, I am going to stick with plane engines.

[Sheb]

I don't see why not, if anything it's a rather tame revision, as we're doing only one new shell type. We should ask for smoke round at the same time.

And we're going to need a new artillery piece sometime anyway. But if we're designing optics next turn, we need to hold the artillery gap.

[Kot]

I'm actually dubious we can do RAP as a revision though, so I'm sticking to Heat/fix our shaped charges to fly better.

We already have similar technology, as our mortars are essentially this.

[tryrar]

You know what, if we're going to try to hold the artillery gap, why not just mod our arty to use a screw breech and a split tail carriage? This should up firerate and accuracy by a lot.

[tryrar]

I'm actually dubious we can do RAP as a revision though, so I'm sticking to Heat/fix our shaped charges to fly better.

We already have similar technology, as our mortars are essentially this.

Umm, I kinda doubt our mortas and RAP are similar enough to work. One is a simple tube that fires a high-angle rocket essentially(and is designed for that), the other is an artillery piece that normally fires normal shells. Trying to get not only a normal shell but a rocket in the same weapon would likely not work as a revision

[10ebbor10]

There's only so much you can do with an obsolete design. I, at least, am planning to design a new artillery piece in the near future (scopes first though) and then I'd rather have something which can fit both.

[andrea]

don't we already have smoke shells? I thought we developed them.
and yes, we might have to hold the gap. we might not be immediately able to design a new artillery.

@tryrar: firerate and accuracy are fine, they outclass us in range.

[Sheb]

Because once we devellop a shell, we can use it for all our guns. Whereas we are going to spend a design action on cannon anyway sooner or later.

[10ebbor10]

@tryrar: firerate and accuracy are fine, they outclass us in range.

They also outclass us in fire rate.  The B2 fires 25% faster. Only it doesn't outclass us in range is because they fire from much further.

[andrea]

firing from much further is the definition of outclassing us in range? firerate we can supplement with more artillery.

[Kot]

You know what, if we're going to try to hold the artillery gap, why not just mod our arty to use a screw breech and a split tail carriage? This should up firerate and accuracy by a lot.

Range > accuracy/firerate. Also, afaik, we're using a bolt-action artillery (hue) so if we wanted a screw breech we would be better making a new gun anyway.
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