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[Kot]

Oh, I agree, it just gives some extra Ooooomph to our armored cars. Basically, give them something with more explosive to shoot when they need to dispatch groups of enemy infantry in the jungle, or shoot at enemy's armored vehicle.

The "Ooooomph" will be minor, really. Autocannon already deals with their armor and dispatching groups of enemy infantry with 30mm rockets will require those groups to basically hug each other.
I vote for plane engines tho, obviously because I want it to tie.

[andrea]

Spoiler: revision proposals (click to show/hide)

Revise our dive bomber to use 2 Oil instead or 3 Oil. If fuel injection and/or turbo can help achieve that goal, include them. If they don't, exclude them. Highest priority is decreasing Oil cost.

Revision : Introduce HEAT rounds for our artillery, tank and rocket. This should give each of those a single-shot kill certainity on anything they design with less than extremely heavy armor. Uses a cap and fins to stabilize the projectile. If time is left, also develop APHE, and Canister shot.

Add rocket weapons to our planes. Improve the aerodynamics of our shaped charge shells as well, so they are useable.

Add rocket weapons to our vehicles. Get the forementioned shaped charge reshape as well.

Spoiler: revision votes (click to show/hide)

Plane engines : Andres, Andrea,Kot
Heat rounds:ebbor, quake,tryrar
Vehicle RPG:Sheb
Rocket planes!(not actually rocket planes):

TIE! ( sheb, yout are for now placed under rocket vehicles. Not sure if I at least convinced you to jump on rocket planes)

[Sheb]

They're 50 mm RPG grenades. We already have anti-infantry warhead for them.

Andrea: Rocket vehicles and rockets planes are the same thing. We just need to add rocket to them. Give me gaffer tape and a length of wire and I'll do it myself.

[andrea]

for that kind of adding, you don't need revision. Just tell the armored car gunner to carry an RPG. they can fire trhough the existing gunner hatch. I thought you wanted them properly integrated? if not, there is no reason to spend a revision on adding them to land vehicles where our infantry version works just as well.

edit: anyway, feel free to edit the proposal list and add your vote as you see fit.

[10ebbor10]

I'll support that actually.

An upsized version of our RPG designed to be mounted on vehicles will give us quite a bit of firepower.

[Sheb]

It's a revision if we wants racks of rockets outside the vehicle with inside fire control.

[Kot]

No, stop, don't.
Upsized (like, really upsized) rockets could work, but right now the gain would be very damn small. 30mm (Last when I checked the tube was 30mm and warheads apparently went all the way in. And even if it's 50mm, all this still applies) would be really weak when it comes to shooting enemy infantry (RPG-7 fragmentation is 40mm (only because international treaties, eh) and is pretty shitty (Wikipedia pulled 150m lethal from ass or propaganda, you would have to be unluckiest person in the world to get killed at 150m) even with pretty powerful explosives (we don't have those) put in it.

[Sheb]

No, it's fairly clear from the description the warhead and fins don't fit in our RPG tube. It's an inaccurate RPG-7. With our larger warhead, we could have a 10 or 15m kill radius, which is already good.

[10ebbor10]

Anyway, it's called a revision for a reason, right?

Spoiler: AS-RPG28-130 (click to show/hide)

A dramatically upsized version of our standard RPG, up to 130 mm. Designed to be assembled and fired in batches from vehicles. The high firerate from the artillery, combined with the significant mobility make for a devastating weapon

[andrea]

what is that 130? the size? if so, I don't think we can upscale that much on a revision.

[10ebbor10]

Just tell them to double the numbers. What's the worst that could happen?

[andrea]

with a rocket of 13cm of diameter? on a revision, with previous rockets being only 30mm?

The worst that could happen is our vehicles blowing up all the time. Pretty fireworks however. ( although I expect it to be a design fail rather than such a catastrophic outcome)

Keep numbers reasonable. A bit larger, sure. but not a number that is 2.5 to 4+ times our only other rocket grenade.

[Kashyyk]

The worst that could happen is our vehicles blowing up all the time. Pretty fireworks however. ( although I expect it to be a design fail rather than such a catastrophic outcome)

You hear a voice from the depths of the Oubliette
"I'm ok with that!"

Moskurg thread is basically done for this turn, so I'm bored. Sorry.

[10ebbor10]

Not much of a point doing it then. Well, let's go back and see what all our problems are.

Air

Not many problems. Enemy scopes are ineffective, but our planes are not as effective as they should be for some reason.

Desert

Enemy artillery is devastating our positions. Enemy snipers and tanks outrange us thanks to our scopes.

Mountains

Enemy sniper is being quite effective, combined with their mobile machine gun

Jungle

They win close range- medium, we get longer range.


We obviously can't fix all these problems. The sniper we're going to solve next turn, so I think it should be great to work on our short range  and artillery problems this turn.

[Sheb]

Their artillery was only so effective because of their radio advantage. I hope to kick that. SMG or more rockets would help in the jungle. Better planes could cut their ore.

We really need a good anti-sniper doctrine.