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Author Topic: Arms Race, Arstotzka: 1935 Production  (Read 158954 times)

andrea

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Re: Arms Race, Arstotzka: 1925 Revision
« Reply #1395 on: August 04, 2015, 05:20:05 pm »

actually, since cheapening either the turbo or the fuel injector will have equal effects on the cost, wouldn't it be better to improve the injector first? it is a bit quirky and already implemented on existing designs. If we revise it, we might be able to field more planes, more effective. a cheap turbocharger mounted on planes improves performance, but doesn't improve cost.

my proposal for a revise action is
make the engine cheaper. Start with streamlining and improving the fuel injection, then simplify the turbocharged if possible. If cheapening is not possible, substitute with a simpler engine similar to that in our trucks.

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« Reply #1396 on: August 04, 2015, 05:42:48 pm »

Revise our plane engines. First priority is getting the fuel-injection simple. Second priority is decreasing fuel requirement from 3 to 2.

This'll make our HF Expensive and our tank Very Expensive. If we succeed in revising the second priority, we get both our DB and our HF cheap. A cheap dive bomber can take out their Expensive tanks easily and our cheap HFs will outnumber and outperform anything they send to destroy our DBs.

New order: At night in the Jungle, mortars can fire flares to signal dive bombers and allow them to hit emplacements or tanks. We destroy their stuff and they can't fight back due to it being night time. Our dive bombers are quick so the enemy has even less reaction time than when they hit us with their bombers.

Glory to Arstotzka.

EDIT: Cease production of the T15. I said to do this last year but I think it was too late.

EDIT2: Our armoured cars become cheap next turn while theirs stay Expensive. We'll still win in the light vehicle department and we'd be able to flank their tanks with our armoured cars. They can either shoot our own tanks or the armoured car that's about to destroy them in the rear.
« Last Edit: August 04, 2015, 05:47:13 pm by Andres »
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« Reply #1397 on: August 04, 2015, 05:45:50 pm »

Turbo power for the glory of Arstotzka!
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« Reply #1398 on: August 04, 2015, 05:51:58 pm »

Hey Sensei, you recorded our T25's speed with mph instead of kph.

EDIT: Their tank is Very Expensive due to needing 5 Ore but only having 2 Ore. If we revise fuel injection, we'll have an equally expensive tank, except it's faster, has a more accurate gun on its own, and can be fired accurately on the move.
« Last Edit: August 04, 2015, 05:53:42 pm by Andres »
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« Reply #1399 on: August 04, 2015, 05:52:52 pm »

Hey Sensei, you recorded our T25's speed with mph instead of kph.
I think it is a proof that Sensei is biased toward Moksburg!
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« Reply #1400 on: August 04, 2015, 05:54:51 pm »

UR, what do you think of my revision plan? in particular, the idea that cheap fuel injection might benefit us more than cheap turbo charger.

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Re: Arms Race, Arstotzka: 1925 Revision
« Reply #1401 on: August 04, 2015, 05:56:46 pm »

Support andrea's revision if my one doesn't pass. Getting good fuel injection gets us a cheaper tank and a cheaper plane. Good turbo only gets us a cheaper tank. It's an obvious choice.

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« Reply #1402 on: August 04, 2015, 06:02:52 pm »

I support Anrea's revision
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« Reply #1403 on: August 04, 2015, 06:03:21 pm »

I wonder, if we don't manage to simplify the engine, how feasible it would be to order production of it without an engine, to use as improvised fixed gun emplacement.
Our T15 tank crews would be overjoyed, I am sure! from a moving boiler, to an immobile target.

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« Reply #1404 on: August 04, 2015, 06:09:32 pm »

I think failing fixing injectors and turbo inserting truck engine in the tank is not that hard, even if it will hurt its speed badly
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Re: Arms Race, Arstotzka: 1925 Revision
« Reply #1405 on: August 04, 2015, 06:11:18 pm »

An added benefit of fixing the Injectors is that it solves the problem with our plane's midflight engine failures.
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« Reply #1406 on: August 04, 2015, 06:12:51 pm »

Since it seems we're not revising our plane engines this year, we should make sure to do so next year. Cheap planes are a very useful thing to have and the faster we get them the better.

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« Reply #1407 on: August 04, 2015, 06:17:29 pm »

Voting for Andres's revision.
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« Reply #1408 on: August 04, 2015, 06:23:50 pm »

you know, Andres, I just noticed our names are an easy mistype away. A and S are so close :P

by the way, if we get cheap fuel injector technology, the cost of our planes will also go down.

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« Reply #1409 on: August 04, 2015, 06:32:13 pm »

by the way, if we get cheap fuel injector technology, the cost of our planes will also go down.
Only the price of our Heavy Fighter will go down. Afterwards, both the Heavy Fighter and our Dive Bomber become Expensive due to using 3 Oil when we only have 2. It's why I suggested revising the HF engine to use less fuel after we sorted out the fuel injection - because it becomes properly cheap and so will the DB due to using the same engine.

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