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[Hiddenleafguy]

I vote for the dive bomber above, let us out do Germany's airforce!

[10ebbor10]

Voting for the divebomber

I also think we should make a token effort to keep the mountains. Maybe fixing the camouflage of our uniform and giving them binoculars in the revision.

[Hiddenleafguy]

Yes, we should at least pretend to care about the mountain.

[andrea]

dive bomber

well. camouflage should help. and perhaps the dive bomber can offer some support. lets hope for good rolls.

[Ukrainian Ranger]

We can fit a lot in mountain troops uniform revision :

Better mountain climbing equipment, winter clothing, camouflage, entrenchment shovel, binoculars, flare gun, parachutes(?)

[Hiddenleafguy]

I say we codename it project falcon.

[andrea]

winter clothing is not an issue, we likely have that already. Keep in mind that the mountains might be warmer than our home region.

[Dansmithers]

Voting for the bomber, but with white phosphorous bombs standard
GLORY TO ARSTOTZKA

[VoidSlayer]

You know, the reason the current plane is being outclassed is it has no maneuverable guns.

We could fix that by changing the mounting on one gun to be central and putting another on the back on a pivot, rather then building a competently new plane this turn.

Also the multi role fighter thing was just going to have a few bombs it could use, not be a heavy bomber.

[VoidSlayer]

Vote for AS-AR23 assault rifle.

We have enough ore that this should be field able to all troops.

Then we can make some armored troop transports to fully utilize soldiers in the mountains and jungles.

[10ebbor10]

Maneuverable guns are really not that great. In real life, maneuverable guns on fighter craft were quickly abandoned because they were almost completely useless.

Even in bombers they weren't very useful. A fighter craft, being faster and more maneuverable than a heavy bomber, could come in fast and damage the bomber before it's crew could react. There was a reason that these flew at night and in close box formations, or before that were designed to be so fast that the enemy couldn't catch them.

[Aseaheru]

You know, the reason the current plane is being outclassed is it has no maneuverable guns.

We could fix that by changing the mounting on one gun to be central and putting another on the back on a pivot, rather then building a competently new plane this turn.

With who manning them? We have a single-seat fighter.

 Also, what ebbor said about fighters with turrets also includes the fact that turrets, and their gunners, are heavy. Case in point, the British at one point built a fighter where the only armament was 4 MGs in one turret, with the same engine as a hurricane. It did not do well.

[tryrar]

You know, the reason the current plane is being outclassed is it has no maneuverable guns.

We could fix that by changing the mounting on one gun to be central and putting another on the back on a pivot, rather then building a competently new plane this turn.

With who manning them? We have a single-seat fighter.

 Also, what ebbor said about fighters with turrets also includes the fact that turrets, and their gunners, are heavy. Case in point, the British at one point built a fighter where the only armament was 4 MGs in one turret, with the same engine as a hurricane. It did not do well.

What, no love for my design? It's not as sexy as a dive bomber, but it still can be used to attack ground targets and it should be a much better fighter than what they currently have(and should be parity for anything new they might field). We can modify our design later to have a dive bomber variant(basically sacrifice some speed to increase bomb load and add dive flaps)

[Ukrainian Ranger]

don't worry, your interceptor will win in another thread

[Andres]

Spoiler: AS-DB-HF-23 (click to show/hide)

 Monoplane built from aluminium with addition of advanced aluminium alloys. Uses new, fuel-injected radial engine, and mounting an AC18 in the centerline firing through the prop-shaft. Capable to carry bombs or rockets on its wings and under fuselage. Build for speed and high payload. Designed for precise dive bombing of enemy fortified positions in mountains, armoured vehicles, trains. While it is designed for ground support, it should be fast enough to boom and zoom more maneuvrable but slower opponents or simply run away from them.
Aimed cost is either 5 ore, 2 oil  or 4 ore, 3 oil)

I don't agree that we should choose a dive bomber over an assault rifle since they provide zero advantage against their Brumbies, but since that's what we're going for let me alter the design a bit. Aimed cost is no more than 4 Ore and no more than 2 Oil. If it costs any more than 2 Oil, it will only ever be Expensive at minimum and there'll be no way to make it cheaper unless we capture the Jungle.

Glory to Arstotzka.