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How do you feel about the use of guns in this setting?

We know how to make them and they're useful, mainline production.
- 4 (33.3%)
They seem out of place and run rather counter to a fantasy setting, avoid them.
- 2 (16.7%)
Get outta here, nerd, nobody finds guns that interesting.
- 1 (8.3%)
Go ahead and have the NPCs make em, but not worth player input.
- 1 (8.3%)
Support, but they shouldn't be the standard weapons.
- 4 (33.3%)

Total Members Voted: 12


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Author Topic: {OOC Thread} If Bay12 was a Fortress 3  (Read 54392 times)

Gwolfski

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Re: {OOC THREAD} If Bay12 was a Fortress 3
« Reply #90 on: August 16, 2015, 12:49:21 pm »

what does occ meean? overly cloying conversation? (cloying = boring)
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Re: {OOC THREAD} If Bay12 was a Fortress 3
« Reply #91 on: August 16, 2015, 12:51:59 pm »

what does occ meean? overly cloying conversation? (cloying = boring)
I don't know.
If you mean OOC, it's short for out of character.
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Dustan Hache

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Re: {OOC THREAD} If Bay12 was a Fortress 3
« Reply #92 on: August 19, 2015, 07:16:15 am »

Disagreeing over magical magic is fun!
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Re: {OOC THREAD} If Bay12 was a Fortress 3
« Reply #93 on: August 19, 2015, 09:41:59 am »

Disagreeing over magical magic is fun!
Especially when there are two of you, both making up stuff and then having it be absolute fact.
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Re: {OOC THREAD} If Bay12 was a Fortress 3
« Reply #94 on: August 19, 2015, 10:16:28 am »

having it be absolute fact.

Except when it's not. Which it isn't, mostly.
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Re: {OOC THREAD} If Bay12 was a Fortress 3
« Reply #95 on: August 19, 2015, 10:26:12 am »

having it be absolute fact.

Except when it's not. Which it isn't, mostly.
A point, you have.
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Re: {OOC THREAD} If Bay12 was a Fortress 3
« Reply #96 on: August 19, 2015, 07:35:07 pm »

Net, some of the technology you're developing won't work very well, but you can also build it and have no IC reason not to try, so I'll let you find out by trial and error when you actually need to use them. The same applies to everyone else.

Spark can't be everywhere at once. The guards are pretty savvy themselves, and there's a wall around the fort's only entrance from the surface, so it's not like they've got a great likelyhood of getting through anyway, but still. Aside from that, the little thing is far from indestructible, and far more useful as a research assistant than a defense station. Incidentally, you don't have unlimited communication range with it, that would be rather more powerful than I'd like, there's a reason even Mary Sue-writers often place a range limit.

When sending spells over a long distance through normal space, or a really long distance through abnormal, there is, in fact, latency, because the transmitted energy has to travel like anything else. However, provided the spell is transmitted using anything even approaching the speed and efficiency of a hand radio's signal, that lag is barely even relevant within planetary distance, measured in minute fractions of a second.

There is an increasing cost based on distance when casting spells, because you need to keep the construct together over the travel time. By the time major lag became much of a problem with radiofrequency-equivalents, you'd already have reached the limit of your personal ability to project the spell over range without a ritual to back it up, which takes some time to set up, or in cases of lag greater than a few seconds, of simple possibility. Of course, casting to something more like the speed of sound, or the flight speed of an unladen african bush swallow, will render lag far more of an issue, while simultaneously opening up a number of means to cast over far longer ranges without needing to use the more difficult method.

There is a more difficult method to use magic over extreme distance. Basically, you create a gateway to a semi-nonexistent chaotic plane, then another gateway to the target set of coordinates, then send the spell through. Doing so is extremely difficult and energy-intense, making it only worthwhile in exceptional situations, but also massively increases travel speed, to the point of hyperluminal transit when used correctly. Can be dangerous to get it wrong, and there are theoretical applications that should be looked into, by the suicidal, desperate, or very brilliant.

Net, you got a great deal wrong with your textbook post, but suffice it to say that yes, you do have  to consider the shared frame of reference. Provided you are capable of reconciling extra-dimensional coordinates relative to a subjectively stationary physical object within a short timeframe, doing so is not particularly difficult, but the different contextual and semi-arbitrary layers tend to cause problems for most things running on a human comprehension-scale. Having servant-devils or similar entities is often helpful.

I am not actually certain I answered everything I need or want to answer, so feel free to re-ask any points you feel I missed.
« Last Edit: August 19, 2015, 07:37:03 pm by Amperzand »
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http://www.collinsdictionary.com

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Re: {OOC THREAD} If Bay12 was a Fortress 3
« Reply #97 on: August 19, 2015, 09:40:31 pm »

*points at what essentially amounts to a magic computer*
Also, the construct should be capable of functioning independently of myself should it be cut off.


Permission to retcon a bit of time into, you know, actually containing the ritual prep as I was actually planning the event (yes I planned this, it makes sense to expect zombie spies when you know they were already there), and would have prepared the ritual OOCly had I known I needed it.


Also, Spark can't be everywhere at once, no.  However, the creeping eyes also can't be everywhere at once, there's a theoretically and practically limited supply, and I (again, had I known that there was actually a massive area to cover with one mobile fireball generator) would have basically had the same thing done, only with everybody frying the zeds.  And possibly a zed tracker.


...In short, though, you need to lay out how the heck magic works before we all collectively Cancels play: Gone insane.
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Re: {OOC THREAD} If Bay12 was a Fortress 3
« Reply #98 on: August 19, 2015, 11:23:05 pm »

Dustan hache cancels play: throwing a tantrum.
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I figure at some point, you're just gonna run outta fucks to give and just off yourself whenever you get hurt at all. It's not like there's any downsides to it. Hangover? Suicide will fix that. Stubbed your toe? Suicide. Headache? Suicide. Papercut? Suicide.

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Re: {OOC THREAD} If Bay12 was a Fortress 3
« Reply #99 on: August 20, 2015, 01:34:22 am »

Amperzand cancels lay out how magic works; making it up as he goes along.

Again, I'm open for argument. Until it's agreed upon or in a Narrator Text updop, it isn't full-on Word of God.

Also, I will again be replying to your stuff in the morning, because that camping trip drastically altered my sleep schedule and I can no longer stay up until 4:30 AM.
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Heiterverzweiflung. Not a legit German word so much as something a friend and I made up in German class once. "Carefree despair". When life is so fucked that you can't stop laughing.
http://www.collinsdictionary.com

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Re: {OOC THREAD} If Bay12 was a Fortress 3
« Reply #100 on: August 20, 2015, 02:58:27 am »

I just hope more people join in, its rather dull having only biggerfish half the time.
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I figure at some point, you're just gonna run outta fucks to give and just off yourself whenever you get hurt at all. It's not like there's any downsides to it. Hangover? Suicide will fix that. Stubbed your toe? Suicide. Headache? Suicide. Papercut? Suicide.

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Re: {OOC THREAD} If Bay12 was a Fortress 3
« Reply #101 on: August 20, 2015, 10:48:49 am »

I just hope more people join in, its rather dull having only biggerfish half the time.
Yeah, where did everybody go?
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Re: {OOC THREAD} If Bay12 was a Fortress 3
« Reply #102 on: August 20, 2015, 11:02:05 am »

Murdoc is waiting for me to resolve your argument, Gwolfski is skrubderp. and Blaze doesn't act very often. Everyone else seems to be simply gone, likely as a result of the thread exploding in OOC before I made this thread. I don't really know what happened to all the folks from the last two threads, but hey, what can ya do.

Once we get up to about five or six stable players, I'll be pretty happy with it. I intend this more like a D&D campaign than a massive player-army-versus-GM's-latest-BBEG thing, not least because outside of extenuating circumstances, I have very little intention to railroad you, or stop actual actions.

...There being a difference between realizing that what you tried to do isn't possible and changing the rules, and simply stopping you from doing it via GM-itude.
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Heiterverzweiflung. Not a legit German word so much as something a friend and I made up in German class once. "Carefree despair". When life is so fucked that you can't stop laughing.
http://www.collinsdictionary.com

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Re: {OOC THREAD} If Bay12 was a Fortress 3
« Reply #103 on: August 20, 2015, 11:03:14 am »

Forums seem slow today. I got some ideas for a post but I don't have time!
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Re: {OOC THREAD} If Bay12 was a Fortress 3
« Reply #104 on: August 20, 2015, 11:11:46 am »

Yeah, they do that. Nah worries, it'll get better.
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Is there a word that combines comedy with tragedy and farce?
Heiterverzweiflung. Not a legit German word so much as something a friend and I made up in German class once. "Carefree despair". When life is so fucked that you can't stop laughing.
http://www.collinsdictionary.com
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