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[10ebbor10]

Expensive, plus one for optics.

I see. The wording is a bit ambiguous. I interpreted it as having bomb sights as a standard part of the design, not an expensive retrofit.

[evilcherry]

I do feel the next Arms race game need to compensate for this situation. There is little point for WWII besides revenge after Stalingrad and Midway.

[Ukrainian Ranger]

I find it funny that I switched to the losing side because it is more entertaining for me but half of Moskurg thread wants to abandon the game.

[andrea]

Actually,  when you developed the tank you almost took the plains back. I still don't understand why you didn't put all your efforts there at the time. (When we got the tank destroyer)

[Kashyyk]

IIRC, our one chance to take back the plains was when we were creating heroes for each side. Your hero prevented us from taking it.

[evilcherry]

Actually,  when you developed the tank you almost took the plains back. I still don't understand why you didn't put all your efforts there at the time. (When we got the tank destroyer)

We did try our best. Then your war hero introduced towed arty warfare and we lose. Its all downhill from there.

[Playergamer]

At this point I'm only watching, instead of playing, since it feels useless to try to design weapons when Arstotzka advances on every front anyway.

[Kot]

At this point I'm only watching, instead of playing, since it feels useless to try to design weapons when Arstotzka advances on every front anyway.

All things considered, that's how you're supposed to turn the tide and win the war. Also, do I smell salt?
I think I'll blame that on dice Gods, Dust Devils, Ice Giants or whatever.

[LordSlowpoke]

* LordSlowpoke throws some salt at kot

now you too can feel how it's like to be on the receiving end of salt

truly progressive

[Playergamer]

It's not salt, I just don't feel like playing anymore. Salt means sadness, not apathy.

[Hiddenleafguy]

*HLG plays never surrender for the person who is surrendering.*
YOU CAN DO IT! *HLG hides from the police searching for someone who likes hiding and leaves.*

[andrea]

It honestly surprised me that we maanaged to advance in the jungle.  Paratroopers helped but I think we also got good rolls.

[Kot]

* LordSlowpoke throws some salt at kot

now you too can feel how it's like to be on the receiving end of salt

truly progressive

Stop being salty. :>

[LordSlowpoke]

nu

* LordSlowpoke throws more salt

[Devastator]

Expensive, plus one for optics.

I see. The wording is a bit ambiguous. I interpreted it as having bomb sights as a standard part of the design, not an expensive retrofit.

That would reduce the price of about three-quarters of Moskurg's items, along with free radios and optics on all tanks and artillery, if it was true.

To be honest, there were lots of opportunities to win it, but most designs were just random people +1 stuff, or going for single-roll and single use (or zero use) refits and designs.  Arstotzka had four or five rolls for a significant majority of every designs, which allows for massive successes, and is a far superior way to play.  A 1 doesn't mess the whole design, it's just that you get less bonuses on the resulting item.  Especially when a 1 simply means you roll that item into the next bonus attempt next turn.. there's no drawback to going for more things.

In general, I think there could have been guaranteed fives all the way down, and I don't think Moskurg would have had a chance, simply due to ill-concieved decisions and bad orders.  Arstotzka had many more players, who actually argued with each other, while coming up with improved designs and additional things to roll for in each.  Lastly, many of them would complain bitterly about anything effective on the other side, while ignoring limitations or inconsistancies or inaccuracies in their own designs.  When you are the only source talking nothing but positively about your own designs, you can sneak more things through without getting caught.