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Author Topic: Arms Race, OOC [Completed] Now with Arms Race III, against another forum!  (Read 234727 times)

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« Reply #930 on: August 11, 2015, 02:06:31 am »

77. We use dates for designations, don't you remember?
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« Reply #931 on: August 11, 2015, 02:11:00 am »

So, whadda you guys think?
Pretty good, but needs more patriotism. Patriotism and glory.

77. We use dates for designations, don't you remember?
We used to use full dates and only full dates up until 1912. Our first machine gun was called nothing more than the AS-1910. It's why our new machine gun was named the AS-1924 instead of AS-MG24.

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« Reply #932 on: August 11, 2015, 02:12:35 am »

So AS-1877 for the capital?
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« Reply #933 on: August 11, 2015, 02:13:13 am »

So AS-1877 for the capital?
No. The name of the capital is Arstotzka.

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« Reply #934 on: August 11, 2015, 02:13:55 am »

Glory to Arstotzka.
Yes. The official name is AS-1877.

Glory to AS-1877.
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« Reply #935 on: August 11, 2015, 03:11:17 am »

Sensei: now the encryption war has started, what sort of actions are you going to permit for making/breaking cyphers?
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« Reply #936 on: August 11, 2015, 04:21:20 am »

From "Memoir from the Southern Seas" by Françoise B. Pétain

Most visitors to Moskurg will agree that this place has a pathological affection to tigers. There are effigies and statues dedicated to their national symbol every second intersection; people uses the expression "As good as a tiger's butt" for pretty women, or "so bad that Tigers won't chew on" for bad - especially Astrotzkan - food.

But when asked on "what symbolizes their craze on Tigers", almost everyone will agree on the Sunday Procession as the definitive answer.

The Sunday Procession started as a change of honor guards, but subsequently developed into a show of force of the Moskurg military and El Presidente in handling tigers and thus Arstotzka alike. Like most military processions, it is comprised of soldiers marching at a deliberate slow pace, followed by line of armored vehicles and various artillery, but the most striking, and perhaps the most enthusiastically expected part, is the parade of tigers. Three tigers, sometimes four, sometimes six, are transported on the back of their namesake L-1 Tiger trucks, at the very end of the procession. Each tiger got his own truck, and is accompanied by a Tiger-handler.

Usually, and I can say in at least 9 out of 10 times, they are just doing tricks, like mock devouring their trainer's head, jumping, handwaving, or the occasional ball pass between two tigers, greeted by half-enthusiastic cheers from onlooking Moskurgans. However, occasionally, a tiger might jump off the truck and uses his mouth to grab a bystander by his back. If you happen to be on scene, you are lucky, and this is the main draw of the event. Despite the obvious hazard of sharp teeth, the bystander is almost never hurt, and is carried onto the truck. The handler and the tiger will then torture -for lack of a better word - the victim, until he admitted to a crime - usually petty smuggling of Arstotzkan products, eating Arstotzkan food, or reading Arstotzkan books, and then he will be summarily sentenced by something like having his arm or leg severed off by the Tiger. People cheered on as the offending body part was chewed on.

Two years ago, however, on one cloudy Sunday, the script was not followed upon. Four tigers were brought out, and was trailing on the back of the procession. As the Tigers passes by the Soviet Embassy, The tigers suddenly all jumped off and converged onto one particular bystander. He was immediately bitten by the tigers, to my horror, with blood and shred cloth thrown around the place; his carcass was opened, and his organs were lying around. I couldn't bear that, but it does not affect everyone else, as they cheered on, at an intensity unheard of even by Moskurgan standards. I feel so sick and hurried back to the safety of the El Grande Hotel; and as he drove back, my Chauffeur was already talking about the incident.

The newspaper next day said the victim was a Arstotzkan spy, who have just arrived the day before, intended to make drawings of the T-2 Breaker tank. The story ran with all kinds of supporting document and evidence, but I was never convinced. However, every Moskurgan buys into the official version of the story, and perhaps its better to be so.
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« Reply #937 on: August 11, 2015, 07:03:04 am »

Anyway, I have an observation. The way add-on equipment is calculated is inconsistent with the rest of the game's rules.

See, normally, complexity adds. Combine a complex engine with a complex suspension, and you have trouble. However, in case of add-on equipment, such as the radio and scopes, it's merely the highest cost that counts. This is heavily in favor of add-on designs, as those allow you to upgrade your entire army in one go, while ignoring the cost of said upgrade.

An example : Our respective tanks.

Our tank had a complex supercharger and fuel injection, two problems that required a long time to resolve. Several turns, in fact

Moskurg's tank utilizes both a complex radio and scope. Both costs can be ignored due to the add-on rules. 

As you can see, this is clearly unfair. I thus propose that thus issue is resolved by adding the cost as would normally be expected, were all add-on's part of the design.
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« Reply #938 on: August 11, 2015, 07:12:26 am »

Unfair, perhaps, but it does make a lot of sense. Our engine was an integral part of the design, it had to be produced together since a tank without an engine isn't a thing.
scopes and radios however are equipment carried by the crew members, in the same way as our motorbike dudes took to using an RPG.
Unless the radio is integrated in the design.

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« Reply #939 on: August 11, 2015, 07:15:14 am »

It makes no sense. You're saying it would be cheaper for to assemble two parts separately, then integrate them again would be cheaper than put them in the first place. I mean, we could have designed our engine seperatly, and then told the crew to put it in everywhere. It would be no more complex than custom-fitting scopes to everything.

For the moment, it looks like this.

Add-on

-Upgrades entire army
-No cost

Integrated

-Affects 1 unit
-Seriously increases cost

Clearly that is a problem.
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« Reply #940 on: August 11, 2015, 07:17:40 am »

Some T2 Breakers have radios (group leaders), some have scopes, and many have neither.
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« Reply #941 on: August 11, 2015, 07:18:16 am »

installing a new engine onto a tank is not an action that can be reasonably done by a group of soldiers in field conditions, ebbor

installing a scope or radio apparently is

read up on rules regarding the production phase
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« Reply #942 on: August 11, 2015, 07:20:11 am »

besides, as Sensei pointed out using add ons like that , not all tanks they have field all the equipment.

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« Reply #943 on: August 11, 2015, 07:20:53 am »

So it would be simpler to make a modular design for everything, and make add-ons to work with those?
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« Reply #944 on: August 11, 2015, 07:21:55 am »

such a design does have its advantages. However, you would have to burn a lot of design phases to achieve a working design. After that, improvements become simpler.
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