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Author Topic: Arms Race, OOC [Completed] Now with Arms Race III, against another forum!  (Read 233653 times)

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« Reply #615 on: August 04, 2015, 01:52:52 am »

Let's not be catty.  :P
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« Reply #616 on: August 04, 2015, 02:18:55 am »

Seriously Sensei, why does this propoganda not have any effect on quelling the rebellion? It's incredibly well written and we're doing more than the arstozkans are doing.

Well, it didn't have any effect when I did it either. I think that it is well understood on both sides that all the fluff we are making out of contests is for our personal pleasure only. That, and showing the other side their inferiority.


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well , I have little experience with fighter planes, so what I did was just take a picture of a dive bomber and work off that. Just assume we have some incredible control surfaces. or possibly I screwed up on the angle.

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« Reply #617 on: August 04, 2015, 03:18:52 am »

Let's not be catty.  :P
((But then the Stuka or the A5M are both flatter than this hyphen terror.))

THE ENEMY EXPOSED
The only legit source on the enemy from the frontlines

Enemy Dive Bomber Exposed: As Maneuverable As a Duck

Moskurg City - Exposed have received a few pictures of the latest dive bomber of the enemy. Moskurg analysts said these planes are as good as a sitting duck.

These pictures are understood as part of an Arstotzkan campaign to recruit more bodies to be shot down by Moskurg guns in their flying graves. Their flying hardware is being pictured both in flying and diving position, and these photos proved valuable for our military analysis.

"Look at this plane," Dr. Fabian Thomas of Moskurg Aerospace said to Exposed. "This is probably their newest AS-DB-HF-23, judging from its radically different wing profile. Unlike their last triplane, this is a monoplane with a highly slanted wing, which we call a gull wing.

"According to our studies, such wings will improve flight stability; if rumours on the AS-DB-HF-23 are true, then this might be a design feature to improve their bomb aim, as they will want to have our men at a very specific relative position in order to score a hit on us.

"Such design, however, have one big problem. They have traded off a lot of maneuverability with this design, so they are only good at flying in a straight line. They are not really good in turning, evading, or anything other than bombing.

"In addition, that plane doesn't look like to have any armament other than a nose-fitted gun. We predict that our latest designs should have an upper hand in terms of initiative against them."

We have radioed, mailed, and telegraphed the Arstotzkan army but so far they haven't responded to our questions.

Errata: Apparently, an Arstotzkan sleeper has infiltrated our ranks, and misinformed our editor that the Arstotzkan plane was a biplane instead of a triplane. The sleeper was taken to the authorities and the error has been rectified.
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« Reply #618 on: August 04, 2015, 03:23:40 am »

 Considering we dont have radio, atleast not any close to the fronts, mail is not being delivered and telegraph has been cut since before the war, is it any wonder theres no response?
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« Reply #619 on: August 04, 2015, 03:40:52 am »

Considering we dont have radio, atleast not any close to the fronts, mail is not being delivered and telegraph has been cut since before the war, is it any wonder theres no response?
Don't question the Integrity of the Expose. They are doing their best to interview the other side for more balanced reporting. Its not the fault for the newspaper if your interviewee won't respond.

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« Reply #620 on: August 04, 2015, 03:53:51 am »

Unlike their last biplane
Well damn. We kill Moskurgs so quickly they haven't even realised that our only other plane was a triplane. Go Arstotzka! Glory to Arstotzka!
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« Reply #621 on: August 04, 2015, 03:54:55 am »

Unlike their last biplane
Well damn. We kill Moskurgs so quickly they haven't even realised that our only other plane was a triplane. Go Arstotzka! Glory to Arstotzka!
Oh, errata then. The expose must have got their hands on the wrong documents.

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« Reply #622 on: August 04, 2015, 04:23:44 am »

Spoiler: newspaper, april 1923 (click to show/hide)

off the news: some inflation ( price increased)

by the way. it is meant as a monthly bulletin published on the 30th of the month ( 28th if february). And the number is accurate, I have made an excel sheet with the numbers for all the months and years I want :P

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« Reply #623 on: August 04, 2015, 04:50:11 am »

I hadn't thought of Propaganda reducing rebellion. It's a neat idea, but I don't want to make a mechanic that will force you guys to keep doing it. That said, I love the newspapers and such, they do a great job of adding character to the settings. Maybe I'll have propaganda be a competition subject again- for now I'm trying not to repeat stuff.

Equipment Pictures
Great stuff! It's a tough decision against Adrea's 3D renders, but I'll have to pick Iituem's Lt. Otto with Model 1 Service Rifle as the best. Moskurg earns a Design Credit!

The Civilian Market
There are a number of civilian uses for new military hardware and technology. Civilians buy guns, radios, cars, planes and so on for both personal and industrial use. Now that your armies have been building for a while, you have some pre-owned surplus equipment which can be sold to your population and foreigners alike. The nation to submit to best ad for military surplus equipment will earn an Expense Credit. Much to the chagrin of the international Tank Hobbyist Club, Arstotzka and Moskurg have both decided not to sell battle tanks and bombing-capable aircraft in light of recent surges in rebel activity.

A note on Resources and cost
In the Moskurg thread, I said that piece of equipment costing 5 more resources than you have would be Very Expensive. This means that a resource deficit of 1 is Expensive, 3 is Very Expensive, and 6 is A National Effort, and this will apply in general. I think I'm fine with the logic in this exponential curve, I just thought everyone should be aware as this will affect your expense targets if you're trying to make a Very Expensive equipment. Watch out for expensive technology or sudden resource shortages though!

1924 Battle Report

Arstotzka's army now contains the following:
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Moskurg's army now contains the following:
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Continued in next post.
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« Reply #624 on: August 04, 2015, 04:51:02 am »

Continued from previous post.

This year, Arstotzka manufactured their first LMG, the AS-1924. It is a gas piston operated machinegun which is easily operable by one man, and uses an aluminium frame to reduce weight. It's cheap, though a bit specialized- it can't be fired with near as much accuracy as a rifle while standing. They also designed a variant on the AS-DB-HF-23, the AS-HF-24, meant for the specific role of a heavy fighter. It uses a new fuel injected engine for maximum speed, and replaces its bomb load with four extra machine guns. Moskurg design the T2 Breaker tank, designed to take back the desert. It uses RHA armor, a narrow high-velocity antitank gun, as well as a couple machine guns. It's powered by a new diesel engine, with the design goal of saving fuel.

Both nations have reduced fuel this year. T1 Smashers have become Very Expensive again. The AS-A19C has been rendered Expensive, so they sit in hangars while precious fuel is used in more effective AS-DB-HF-23's, and neither side has an inexpensive plane.

The war in the air is increasingly oriented around fighters dueling over control of areas to make a safe path for bombers and other vulnerable craft. The Moskurg fighter is still the Model 3 Wasp. The Arstotzkan's have complimented their DB's with a new Very Expensive fuel injected variant used specifically as a fighter. All of Arstotzka's best pilots (including Andrei Zhuyev) now pilot AS-HF-24's and escort their dive bomber counterparts. These planes can almost keep pace with the huge-engined Wasp, and can outmaneuver and thoroughly out-gun them. They're not in every battle, but they are enough to give Arstotzka an advantage. In a few instances, the new fuel injection system will have one of its nine pumps/injectors fail and flood the engine, forcing pilots to glide to a cross-country landing. Arstotkan bombers are roughly as effective against ground targets as Moskurg ones, although their dive bombing helps hit moving targets.

In the Desert, the Moskurg army reorganizes around the T2 Breaker tank. Despite being Very Expensive, it is extremely effective. The 1.6 inch Breaker cannon is accurate and part of a turret which rotates quickly, it is an ideal weapon for picking off AS-MV21 armored cars, even if it usually takes gunners a few shots to hit their fast-moving targets. The armor is impervious to AP 7.62mm rounds and can only be penetrated by autocannons at close range. In general, a Breaker can take on a squad of APCs and spend as much time as it wants mopping up motorcycles and cheeky Arstotzkan infantry trying to get a direct mortar hit. The biggest threat to the Breaker by far is bombing, a near or direct bomb hit will destroy it, and the pintle Brumby isn't a very reliable way of stopping AS-DB's before they can release their payload. AS-T15's, now cheap, are reinstated in force to counter the Breaker threat. The Breaker can line up accurate shots so quickly from a long distance against the big, lumbering T15's with their slow and somewhat innaccurate (due simply to being huge) AS-1912 guns that Moskurg pilots come to calling the AS-T15 the Sitting Duck, and AS-T15 crews "accidentally" ruin their boilers and request to be reassigned to motorcycles, horses, bicycles or unicycles. T1 Smashers are used mainly in defensive battles, because they can't keep up with the T2. Moskurg gains ground (3/4)

In the mountains, Arstotzka makes significant use of their AS-1924. Moskurg now not only doesn't have the exclusive use of light machine guns, but the Arstotzkan variation is lighter and cheaper, and slightly more accurate to boot owing to newer manufacturing practices. Arstotzka uses their AS-1924 where appropriate (medium range engagements mostly) and generally wins in long range rifle engagements. Their mortar with flares and incendiary shells is effective against the rare Moskurg emplacements where someone has assembled a Stallion piece by piece. They also continue to get good use of their camo. Arstotzka gains ground (2/2).

In the jungle, Arstotzka also benefits from their new AS-1924. Moskurg makes use of their T2 Breaker to regain control of the roads, and it's quite effective. Arstotzka mostly can't depend on their AS-MV21's now, between the Breaker and the Rhino, but they win medium range infantry fights with their new AS-1924 giving them a slight mobility advantage over the Brumby and good camo aiding in ambushes. Against emplacements, which includes T2 Breaker and T1 Smasher roadblocks, they make extensive use the the AS-1911 mortar. Casualties are high on both sides, but the inability to easily transport troops on roads by motorcycle (they'll run into a tank and die) near Moskurg emplacements means that Arstotzkan advance is stalled despite advantageous performance in infantry fights, as the Moskurg troopers move by truck and are radio-organized. Moskurg holds, (2/2).

On a rain-slick precipice in the high mountain pass, under rumbling storm clouds, Arstotzkan secret agent Promised Crucible leaves Moskurg lines, and tosses his Moskurg coat to the wind. He meets an Arstotzkan field medic headed his way- she watches him discard his Moskurg uniform. He hails the field medic and says, "I'm with the Ministry of Integrity. I'm carrying the plans to one of those damned Moksburg radios, can you believe they weren't ovens this whole time? I need immediate passage back to the capitol." The field medic was actually a Moskurg spy, Agent Sandworm, also carrying stolen plans. She draws an AS-1909 pistol to shoot him right there, but it jams and fails to fire its first shot. Realizing himself to be in the presence of his Moskurg rival, Promised Crucible tackles Agent Sandworm to the ground. The two trade fisticuffs and try to push the other off of the jagged ledge, with sharp stone below. Promised crucible steals Sandworm's folder of stolen documents on camouflage ("A Dissertation on the Tactical Value (or Malus) of Glorious Flags on Helmets and Uniforms"), but is suddenly thrown from the ledge! His own stolen documents tumble onto sharp rocks and into a quick flowing stream. Quickly, he pulls the cord on his spy-issue pants-concealed parachute, and floats to safety before Sandworm can reload and fire her shoddy AS-1909. It takes her four attempts, after which she unloads an entire magazine into the empty mountain peaks in anger. Well, she unloads most of a magazine, it jams again part way through.

Back in the capitol, Agent Promised Crucible does some investigation on the rebel threat, but it's not like he's going to post his notes here where dirty Moksburgs can see them.

You may now begin designing for 1925!
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« Reply #625 on: August 04, 2015, 04:59:10 am »

I need some clarification on their tank expense level.

If I am reading the rules right, they get 2 expense levels from the ore(3 missing) and, for this turn, an expense level for the oil(1 missing), for a total of 3 expense levels ( national effort). Next turn it will be merely expensive, after oil production is restored.

But it seems that you classed it as very expensive instead?

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« Reply #626 on: August 04, 2015, 05:03:44 am »

It has a deficit of 4 materials, which is still Very Expensive. I changed the way expense stacking worked due to the "3 ore and 2 oil is more expensive than 4 ore and 1 oil" weirdness.
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« Reply #627 on: August 04, 2015, 05:04:58 am »

ah, fine. You should update the opening post.

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« Reply #628 on: August 04, 2015, 05:09:48 am »

The section with the espionage had me literally lol'ing for several minutes. You, Sensei, have a truly awesome sense of humour. :D
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« Reply #629 on: August 04, 2015, 05:13:11 am »

ah, fine. You should update the opening post.
Yes, I should. Thanks for reminding me.
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