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[10ebbor10]

Moskurg can bring the fight to the trenches, but they can't sustain an armored push and artillery marching without armor support is ultimately killed by overwhelming machine gun fire, despite the advantages of accurate artillery. Arstotzka holds the fields

Shouldn't the advantage of accurate artillery be on our side. Moksburg utilizes a Howitzer without any recoil compensation. Our state of the art hydropneumatic systems allows us to fire accurate and twice as fast. Add to that that we have more artillery, and with longer range...

Planes spotting doesn't really work when your artillery can only shoot 4-5 km far, and has to be re-aimed after every shot (which makes walking closer to the target impossible).

[Andres]

Moskurg can bring the fight to the trenches, but they can't sustain an armored push and artillery marching without armor support is ultimately killed by overwhelming machine gun fire, despite the advantages of accurate artillery. Arstotzka holds the fields

Shouldn't the advantage of accurate artillery be on our side. Moksburg utilizes a Howitzer without any recoil compensation. Our state of the art hydropneumatic systems allows us to fire accurate and twice as fast. Add to that that we have more artillery, and with longer range...

Planes spotting doesn't really work when your artillery can only shoot 4-5 km far, and has to be re-aimed after every shot (which makes walking closer to the target impossible).

Yeah, our artillery seems really undervalued. Absolutely no way could they ever have more artillery than us at least. Also, how well have our ubiquitous Light Mortars been doing against enemy vehicles?

[Taricus]

Actually, it's 12 rounds a minute compared to 10. That, and there'd be a reasonable limit on just how much artillery there is.

That, and the fact that we have a number of self-propelled guns probably means our artillery is in position where it's needed more often.

[10ebbor10]

A skilled crew can fire about 10 times a minute, through the gun moves a little when fired, so it can bombard inaccurately at its full rate of fire or (with a skilled commander) come close enough to often hit trenches and emplacements at about half the rate of fire.

You need skilled commanders and crew to reach 5 rounds per minute that sometimes hit trenches.

It can fire about 12 times a minute, and has a hydro-pneumatic suspension system: it doesn't go off target between shots, and the barrel moves into the frame every time it is fired.

We can fire 12 times per minute, accurately.

That, and the fact that we have a number of self-propelled guns probably means our artillery is in position where it's needed more often.

The selfproppeled gun needs to be prepared before firing, which constitues a serious disadvantagd.

[Taricus]

Moves faster than regular artillery though.

[Aseaheru]

So it shifts position faster. That just helps with avoiding counter-battery fire, which is mitigated somewhat by the time it takes the thing to setup an breakdown.

[10ebbor10]

Moves faster than regular artillery though.

Doesn't matter much if you assault a fortified position though.  And is hardly an accuracy matter.

[Sheb]

Also, you dont have enough Ore to field a lot or artillery or SPAT, and your T1 is nowhere to be seen on the battlefield. We have enough tubes that our soldiers could dual wield with a mortar in one hand and a cannon in the other hand. And a 20mm autocannon between their teeth.

[Taricus]

I could post a rebuttal, but I'm just going to sit here being smug instead :3

[Sheb]

No, it really is quality vs. quantity. With your new shell type, I agree a SPAT is better (if less accurate) than our gun. But we have so much more of them it doesnt matter. Why have mobile artillery when you already have a gun every 20 meters all along the frontline?

Our gunners dont reposition: they just move to the next gun and start firing it. :p

[10ebbor10]

On that note, what is so special about their fragmentation shell? I thought that was ammunition we developed ages ago back when we deployed the mortar.

I mean, all a fragmentation shell is a high explosive in a metal case with a timer to set it off just above the ground.

After that unfortunate incident with Experimental Weapons Team #1, the team sets about perfecting more reliable explosives.

[6] The dice are with you here. Your team perfects the explosives used in both the propellant and shell for the mortar, and implements a time fuse so that shells don't like unexploded, which is both safer for your own troops and causes them to be more effective against the enemy.

Now, we wait.

[Taricus]

Probably because it's bigger than the mortar shell, and thus sending larger shards of shrapnel further.

[10ebbor10]

Yes, but Afaik, developping a certain shell fpr one system gets it on similair systems as well.

[Taricus]

Well, best hope we don't start designing more ordinance then :3

Also, sheb, to answer your question in the Arstotzkan thread, it's the jungles that have the extra bay, not the plains. There's a map in the OP now if you ever forget.

[Sheb]

Tssss, reading our thread? Thats bad! Also, the GM wasnt clear, when Iituem posted the map he said he intended to have an East bay as well.