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Hanna

Elysia

Spooder

Doge

Cat

Snek

Andala

Abstain

[Haspen]

So you leave the monsters away and I just murder your other people? Ok...

Swordstar pls ;v

You should dismount your high horse and put on some glasses and re-read what I wrote v;

[GiglameshDespair]

I think only Bael are weak to fire magic. Of course, Gotoh is effective against all monsters but I didn't see it on them.

And all this gloating is lame.

Yeah, I gotta admit, it's like... well, if you really want to win, Swordstar, you're going to, because you've got ~3x the troops we do.
Yeah, we know you can counter our strategies... your forces are pretty built for that.

[Caellath]

Also doogs and bael are weak to fire if I remember correctly.

Yeah, hence my edit. Unfortunately, that means that's three of our number weak to fire since we have two doogs and one Bael.

One of the enemies also has a poleaxe and since I'm at work I can't see where [on] the map, though I do know I want to keep a distance.

[Swordstar]

I don't appreciate the high horse or glasses comments hasp. You said you'd keep the monsters away from the railings. You also said you'd ring people around the edge of the boat. That would mean other people are around the edge of the boat. In which case I could keep people at range two and hit those people Unless I'm completely misunderstanding what you're saying.

And fine, I'll shut up now. Sorry if I offended someone, I thought it was friendly banter, apparently somewhere that tone was lost. If it was me, I apologize, that was not my intent.

And yeah, sorry Cael, I missed your edit until after I posted that.

[Haspen]

We can also try surrendering :v There was a mention of subduing and that implies capture rather than wipe-out.

We gotta decide though before any remaining people move.

[GiglameshDespair]

We can try to diplomise. If that doesn't work, the boat is the only real place we could really defend.

[Haspen]

Yes peeps, try surrendering. Otherwise, orderly retreat to boat needs to happen v:

I'm going to sleep so Xanmy Gigla and Caellath and BMM42 are in charge of potential planning.

[SeriousConcentrate]

And people always ask, 'SerCon, why don't you like the PvP?' This is why. Relentless shittalking that just makes everyone involved look like assholes. I agree with Gig.

Sword has absolutely no incentive to give us a chance at winning and has overwhelming forces and enemy composition suited to killing us all so it's not even that hard for her to do, while a GM (even Hasp for as much as he likes to say otherwise) at least usually gives us a chance so the game can continue. We probably will get a total party wipe, and that'll be that.

[Swordstar]

And I'm not a fan of the assumption that I would actually destroy you guys if it would prevent the game from continuing. It's almost like I'm a semi-decent human being or something.

[GiglameshDespair]

It is pretty standard in battle to try to kill your enemies, yeah.

[Twinwolf]

So, options seem to be "Surrender" or "Boat."

Thought: If we're lucky/plan well and can get rid of the fighters, we could try sticking to the deep forests; with that, we'd get better bonuses then the enemies, which could help balance out the numbers. Although that would bring up the issue of Andala not being able to get to anyone if they go down...

[GiglameshDespair]

We could retreat to the boat and try to use diplomacy.
Surrendering straight off isn't preferable.

BMM42 is thinking of a plan, so let's see what he's planning before we move.

[Twinwolf]

To be honest, not sure about diplomacy; I'd certainly like to try, but from the sounds of it, it's likely they won't listen to anything on the sole reason we're outsiders, at least none of the generic enemies would. Maybe if we got to the boss group, but considering we'd have to kill the majority of the enemies to get to them...

[SeriousConcentrate]

I had more to say, but I'm just going to let it go.

[Swordstar]

Yeah, I'm officially not going to be planning for this map anymore. It's not worth it to me and apparently everyone's opinion of me is low enough that they'd actually believe that I would end a game because I thought it was fun, so yeah. I'll be moving the three characters I control and that's it.