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3man75

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Re: Sector Command
« Reply #15 on: July 11, 2015, 04:40:41 pm »

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Re: Sector Command
« Reply #16 on: July 11, 2015, 05:24:45 pm »

You approach the throne and give a deep bow of respect. Surrounding courtiers immediately start to whisper among themselves as to your actions. The Emperor however seems rather unpertubed and smiles happily at you.

Omi Mejii, formerly Omi Date came into the line of succession via an advantageous marriage with the firstborn daughter of the Late Emperor Shôwa. As is traditional he left his own Clan for the Mejiis and has through sheer political skill managed to outmanouver a dozen other contenders for the throne. That however is none of your concern, apart from the fact that Omi is skilled, intelligent, dangerous and-

"Welcome Brother! I congratulate you to your new post. You bring honour to the Clan and to all of Hegemony!"

your brother. He reminds himself of his and your position and continues in a serious and officious tone.

"High Admiral, i have asked you to come here for a very specific reason. We have recieved a dispatch from the Mandate...of a very concerning nature."

he turns and waves at an aide close to the throne who steps forward and hands you the dispatch. Its an official Order by the Senate itself. You skip most of the officious non-sense and jump immediately to the important part:

In Light of the ever increasing population pressures and lack of colonizable worlds, the Senate hereby decrees that all Sectors are to open their worlds to immigrants, no matter their culture, nationality, philosophy or religion...

You stare for a moment at the Decree...this is an unprecedented encroachment on the Rights of the Sectors. In effect it would mean that the Rim Worlds would have to take on billions of migrants, refugees and settlers from the Core-Worlds. The effect would be devastating. It has been proven since more than 300 years that Cultural-Streaming allows for far more profitable, safe and peaceful worlds, sending billions of refugees would cause an unprecedented upheaval among the Outer Rim Worlds. It would put further strain on their economies which were already struggling under the immense quotas of the Core Worlds.
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Re: Sector Command
« Reply #17 on: July 11, 2015, 05:42:07 pm »

Yet we as High Admiral must remember that our current post belongs to the mandate.

"This is troubling your majesty but I am more afraid of what you will ask of me when I say 'What can I, as High Admiral do?'. Please remember this is a civic concern not a military concern.

If you would like any opinion on how to defend our Hegemony it would be to impose requirements to join. Strong immigration controls that take in a educated and criminal free populace of our choosing. Of our Cultural alignment if you will. From there I cannot think of much else to do than to make sure any immigrants who bring trouble are locked up when they commit crimes in the Hegemony. I am sorry brother but I cannot offer much help, please forgive me."

We do not work for our brother we work FOR the mandate I say.
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Re: Sector Command
« Reply #18 on: July 12, 2015, 05:55:46 am »

Open rebellion: There is no reason to believe that this would be remotely successful.
Sabotage: Civilian targets and large scale make this a risky and likely immoral approach.
Negligence: Likely to affect trade more than immigration, so more harm than good.

Really, all we can do is try to look unfriendly and intimidating without actually being able to support it with any real hostility.
It is a firmly civil matter. As much as we dislike it, it really isn't a matter that we have any right to intervene in.

Does anyone else think that the capital ships are particularly unfocused? It would be nice to have a small force of ships with, say, strength 8 and 2 divisions to increase our ability to control locations without increasing our maintenance costs.
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Re: Sector Command
« Reply #19 on: July 12, 2015, 06:15:00 am »

Anyway, the rules say that we have to open our world's to these immigrants, but not that we must treat them equally, which is something we can not afford to do. While we can not defy the Mandate, you have the power, and the obligation, to interpret it's rulings in a way that ensures the most opportune results.

It seems that an entry fee is in order. Even a small fee will divert most immigrants to other, more suited sectors. The fee can pay for the integration of the remainder of the migrants. Smugglers can be taken care of by military means.
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Re: Sector Command
« Reply #20 on: July 12, 2015, 09:13:07 am »

((Clarification: The Outer-Rim Sectors as Culturally Streamed Worlds have more or less by law of custom the right to not accept immigrant they don't want and have excercised that law for more than 300 years, the recent Mandate law is unprecedented and can even be construed as unlawful due to the Right of Self-Governance which would apply in such matters of Immigration. Plus you wouldn't have much control over immigration it would be more or less threadbare barely functional freighters transporting enomrous amounts of people from the overpopulated Core Worlds just to get them off the hands of the Governors. The sheer mass of people will put a severe strain on the sectors economy...))
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Re: Sector Command
« Reply #21 on: July 12, 2015, 02:07:30 pm »

((Clarification: The Outer-Rim Sectors as Culturally Streamed Worlds have more or less by law of custom the right to not accept immigrant they don't want and have excercised that law for more than 300 years, the recent Mandate law is unprecedented and can even be construed as unlawful due to the Right of Self-Governance which would apply in such matters of Immigration. Plus you wouldn't have much control over immigration it would be more or less threadbare barely functional freighters transporting enomrous amounts of people from the overpopulated Core Worlds just to get them off the hands of the Governors. The sheer mass of people will put a severe strain on the sectors economy...))

Anyway, the rules say that we have to open our world's to these immigrants, but not that we must treat them equally, which is something we can not afford to do. While we can not defy the Mandate, you have the power, and the obligation, to interpret it's rulings in a way that ensures the most opportune results.

It seems that an entry fee is in order. Even a small fee will divert most immigrants to other, more suited sectors. The fee can pay for the integration of the remainder of the migrants. Smugglers can be taken care of by military means.

+1 also we should ask for a private meeting with our brother. Casually tell him "Should a fee be imposed by your highness than I as a mere servant of the mandate cannot interfere with civic work. Should immigrants be lost to pirate attacks than I as high admiral cannot do much for I am in charge of greater things, although for image sake we will 'attempt' to retrieve those lost." Wink at him with a sly face.

"However, should unfair treatment of these immigrants come to pass then I would be forced to intervene. The mandate see's me as a vigilant man with honor. I will forsake my opinion to save our people but this is all I can promise. In public I must always be a servant of the Mandate and a proud citizen of the Hegemony."

Basically were telling him he can use his own navy to kill off immigrant ships and that we won't intervene.
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Re: Sector Command
« Reply #22 on: July 12, 2015, 04:00:55 pm »

I dont think anyone HAS a navy but us. At the least, we have the only ships listed.
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« Reply #23 on: July 12, 2015, 04:02:34 pm »

I am pretty sure that that wouldn't last for long. Unless we get in cahoots with the central government and just kill people in massive numbers while making it look like piracy or something. Are we in a position to approach this legally, wouldn't that be the governor's field? But certainly offer what assistance we can without imminent dismissal/war we can't win...

This does set a precedent, we should consider allying with the other sectors. It would not even need be a military alliance, a purely political, economic, or legal alliance could likely impose the required pressure, but the migrants are probably already on their way, this looks to be the governing equivalent of a surprise attack and they are unlikely to start without preparing the means to finish.
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Re: Sector Command
« Reply #24 on: July 12, 2015, 04:13:09 pm »

((There are no other Ships in the Sector, thats what the Sector Command is there for to supply the Fleet for Sector Defense. In regards to legal or non-violent means of getting these migrants handled would be to force the freighters to simply turn back, that may not be exactly legal but you have no standing orders to let them through either.

But you are right RAM this would be the governors field, however the Emperor gave you that writing for the express purpose of hoping to get your help on this. a Battleship pointing at you is a far better reason to turn around than an angry bureaucrat after all

On the other Hand you can behave like all of this is none of your business or even make sure that this immigrants arrive safely.))
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« Reply #25 on: July 12, 2015, 04:17:27 pm »

Maybe we could do a token gesture. Detach some of the smaller ships to perform 'ship and safety checks' on incoming freighters. Checking for contraband, 'dangerous individuals' and what-not. If a ship has any, we send it back.

We can be more or less strict depending on how desirable the immigrants are and their point of origin
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Re: Sector Command
« Reply #26 on: July 12, 2015, 04:34:22 pm »

Boarding freighters full of desparate migrants seems like a way to cause a bloodbath.
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Re: Sector Command
« Reply #27 on: July 12, 2015, 05:29:54 pm »

I would like to clarify something in my suggestion.

Publicly we state "that we are a Goverment official of the Military not a Civi officer. Thus, we can only hope to believe in the wiseness of our Emperor and those he trusts with handeling this new challenge to our way of life."

Privately we tell our Brother that we would never to help migrants cross and will do what we can to make sure that migrant ships that are armed or have escrots will be asked to come back without such armaments or be treated as smuggelers. Simply put, if we see them we tell them to go back on pain of devastation/destruction. If they are not armed or escorted then we can only allow 'fate' guide them. If Goverment sponsored terroirm and piracy where to kill them while in space or on the ground..then we cannot do much. But we will investigate and bring news to the Hegomony once other tasks are being handled well enough.

In a sense, we should RP wise love our people/sector more than the mandates abuse of power. Let the migrants go somewhere else or find a new colony for them their.

Also, to make it simple with our private meeting with Emperor Oni we state:

1. We will turn away armed migrant transport ships and Migrant fleets that have escorts.
2. Should they be armed and refuse to turn away then we will act with action. Stating that they were smuggelors or that a hostage situation was taking place. Some lie to give us grounds in the reason we blew ships in the vastness of space.
3. We will trust the Emperor to of course help us cover our tracks by dealing with unarmed and unescorted ships with..discretion. Offer that we'd be willing to let pirates go IF they help us deal with these migrants.
4. Once migrants reach the ground we cannot do anything unless they disturb the peace in a radical/terrorist like fashion that puts the world or Hegomony at risk.
5. We are loyal to our people but as humans and goverment officials we must keep an image.
6. Ask how mother is doing and tell him of the rumor about her mental health since dad died. I'm curious to know his take on it.
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Re: Sector Command
« Reply #28 on: July 12, 2015, 10:51:45 pm »

Oh yeah, being brutal with customs would be a decent compromise. It is actually entirely possible that immigrants could arrive with significant resources with the intention of securing their own sovereignty and that would legitimately be something that we want to stop. So I am totally on board with encouraging people not to cross the borders on pain of border scrutiny and if they insist upon crossing anyway give them the full force of boarding them and stripping them of anything that could potentially be weaponised and looting them of resources sufficient to pay for the costs of the inspection. At least if they arrive destitute then they can be largely at the mercy of the civil authorities to indoctrinate.

But really, this is a civil matter and needs a legal solution. As an unprecedented and unethical imposition on regional independence it should be easy enough to get support from the other regions. I am happy to support the Emperor in opposing this, up to and including going to war over it, but that really doesn't look like a good idea.

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Let the migrants go somewhere else or find a new colony for them their.
Make no mistake, these people are legitimately in trouble, turning them back is a disaster for them. The core worlds are overpopulated and it is a miserable situation. There is nowhere else for them to go. It is just that shipping them off is a bad way of solving the core's problem and a great way to create the same problem, along with numerous others, for the rim. They need some sort of population control, even if there were unlimited new worlds to colonise, the logistics of shipping around an ever accelerating population will eventually become impossible.

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« Reply #29 on: July 13, 2015, 07:41:04 am »

While you were reading the Missive the entire throne room slowly had emptied and when you finally look up you suddenly see a small table with tea in front of you and the Emperor beckoning to join him.
Having seated yourself your brother and you engage in a short and frank discussion how to best handle the situation. Your brother clearly would like to avoid bloodshed as that could easiyl provoke a military response from the Mandate.

However allowing the undoubtetly millions upon millions the core worlds would send would spell economic disaster, especially in tandem with the already high tariffs. You finally settle on using a mix of red tape and your fleet to stop them and turn as many as possible back and turn a blind eye on piracy in regards to the immigrant fleets.
Both of you are quite uncomfortable with the situation but the fact stands that Hegemony takes precendence before these people.

"How is mother?"

"...she is...well considering the circumstances. The vacation to Ryuku is good for her." Ryuku, a small agricultural colony founded by taoist monks is a common retreat for overly stressed men and women of the Hegemony nobility. Living together with the monks they can shake of the stress of the court and ruling and replace it with the simple live of gardening and farming.

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It is now March in the year 675

With the Immigrant fleets some mere weeks away what are your orders for the fleets?

The Hegemonies Small Council ,in light of the recent political tension, finds it prudent to raise its own Police Force, especially in regards to the recently increased pirate activity in the Sector. Your input is required as to determine what constitutes an adequate policing fleet. The Takeda Shipyards are relatively small at the moment but would at the moment be able to produce at least 1 Ashigaru-Class Frigate per month or alternatively more ships and/or larger ships at a longer time span.

Furthermore His Highness has decided that the immigrants will require proper policing,administration and infrastructure. A request has come in by several Families to be allowed to expand their "Administrative Staff" and to enlarge their Family Manors with additional barracks for the immigrants.

Finally there is the matter of your Officers Rooster. You have not yet selected candidates for your Admiralty. You can handle this in two ways. Wait for certain individuals to distinguish themselves or recieve a list of potential candidates from which you can select the Admirals of your various Fleets.
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