Uh, so I figured the best way to fully understand what was going on was to write a summary of every post in the game. Which ended up being 4487 words and now my head hurts too much to reread it like I was planning. So it will take some time to really bust out all of the questions and comments I'd like to make.
Tea: Do you believe that Fillipk has a valid case against The Moonlit Shadow or Comrade Shamrock has a valid case against me? What is your read on all the roleclaims that have happened so far[Including my recent one]? Scummy? Not scummy? Weird as all hell?
I have a pending mod question that will impact my view on Moonlit. But as for fillip's stance on Moonlit, I'm actually kinda impressed w/ the nuance he's had on the past page or so with implying/trying to test a connection between you two. (I can elaborate on that more after Moon posts.) I think I probably giggled when I read fillip first stated that he thinks Moon is scum for not knowing there were multiple scumteams. I guess I don't think it's impossible that a newbie werewolf, realizing that there were two scumteams, would pretend to think of the game in terms of one scumteam for as long as possible, and then when called on it, refer to them as "two mafias" for a while to try to distance themselves from being a werewolf and promote mafia hate? That particular conclusion is very unlikely compared to some I've drawn about Moon and their confusion surrounding game theory/the setup, but some of that I shouldn't go into right now, and some I was planning to read back on. Uh, I find Moon's referral to being new self-conscious but not really an alignment tell.
Something I do like about Comrade's case is that he compares you to what he's done in the past as scum - granted, different players play differently, but I'd say that aspect of the case makes his thought processes look genuine. From my initial impressions, I'm not sure I buy that the way you called out kila and FallacyofUrist is scummy (I actually tend to find paranoia of "good players" is pro-town, particularly from new players, but I don't really remember how much mafia experience you have.) I actually thought Teneb's reason for voting you was more compelling even though I kinda think he's scummy?? I lean town on you overall - I think that the way you claimed sounded town, and I buy your freakout over not getting to say your final piece and the DL showing up all of a sudden - but there's enough different scumteams and traitor bullshit that I don't know that it's good strategy to get really attached to townreads.
Uh, as for claims? I already knew roo was scum when I read up to their claim so I can't really objectively comment. I would like to hear why FoU checked kila. The only thing that bothers me about it is that if I were a 1-shot seer in his position and saw roo flip, I would have felt like a kid on Christmas, because while there can be multiple full cops, full trackers, etc., there can't be multiple 1-shots of a particular power role, so from his POV roo was confirmed scum from that claim. This is not a thing he has acknowledged and I don't think I saw a real behavior change from him in his roo pursuit after the claim. It's also possible that he just didn't realize this and is still town, but. I do see early claims come from eager town a lot more often than scum (at least when I've played on IRC, not that I encourage the behavior in general) so I guess I'm null on it? As stated previously, your claim sounds townish to me. You didn't explain why you targeted DarkStar (which doesn't really surprise me given the circumstances of your claim) but that makes sense to me as someone you would think is mafia based on Yesterday and your posts in general.
To be honest, this post was probably not good use of my time considering I think it's the last one I'm going to make before bed, but it is what it is. Lol
Guess I'll throw out the questions that I have that I can remember:
@Moonlit - Is there a reason you make a point to respond to every time Dampe gets brought up?
@fillip - You've talked a lot recently about who you think are werewolves. Who would you say is most likely to be mafia?
@notquitethere - I kinda skimmed the recent BM and it seems like you're a lot more quiet here than there. I guess I don't have a specific question but I'd like to hear comments on quieter players and/or just on anything that isn't re:Moonlit?
@Teneb - I thought your note about wanting to get rid of the mafia first to cut down on the number of nightkills was an interesting strategy. Do you think you're working toward making that happen and if not, why not?
@DarkStar - Thoughts on players besides Moonlit and fillip?
@Comrade - What the fuck was that first post you made, though. I mean, it's kind of hilarious that you had the balls to ask if the post you just made was a good post for scum to make, but I was wondering if you could enlighten me on what you were thinking about that made you go from "I'm asking these questions" to "my post sounds like plausible good scum strategy, I should get opinions on this." Granted you may not remember thoughts you were having while writing a post from idk a week ago, but try?
Good night!
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