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[Ukrainian Ranger]

Bat is more expensive than a skeleton

[Tomcost]

So, about the different decisions:

-Defy death:
Cast on bat, most expensive minion. We may want to think about resurrecting the mage and trying to convert him to our cause in the future

-XP usage:
Dungeon point generation III (-30 xp): mandatory long term. The sooner we unlock it, the better. One extra zombie a day means we could regenerate our current undead army in a week.
Trap creation I (-10 xp): we seriously need something other than minions. Maybe magic traps are overkill, so this should do until we get more xp. I have the feeling that this will be countered by rogues.
Undead spell casters (-20 xp): because we seriously need magic minions. We need to diversify our stuff, and this is likely better than dungeon magic.
Batroom Bears ... is that a Bat?  (-25 xp): just out of curiosity. I have the feeling that this is going to be something agile/sneaky, and we currently need that.

Total xp usage: 85 points. There are 5 left.

And I vote on abstaining to use dungeon points until we know what we can create with our new powers.

[SaberToothTiger]

So, about the different decisions:

-Defy death:
Cast on bat, most expensive minion. We may want to think about resurrecting the mage and trying to convert him to our cause in the future

-XP usage:
Dungeon point generation III (-30 xp): mandatory long term. The sooner we unlock it, the better. One extra zombie a day means we could regenerate our current undead army in a week.
Trap creation I (-10 xp): we seriously need something other than minions. Maybe amgic traps are overkill, so this should do until we get more xp. I have the feeling taht this will be countered by rogues.
Undead spell casters (-20 xp): because we seriously need magic minions. We need to diversify our stuff, and this is likely better than dungeon magic.
Batroom Bears ... is that a Bat?  (-25 xp): just out of curiosity. I have the feeling that this is going to be something agile/sneaky, and we currently need that.

Total xp usage: 85 points. There are 5 left.

And I vote on abstaining to use dungeon points until we know what we can create with our new powers.

+1

[Generally me]

So, about the different decisions:

-Defy death:
Cast on bat, most expensive minion. We may want to think about resurrecting the mage and trying to convert him to our cause in the future

-XP usage:
Dungeon point generation III (-30 xp): mandatory long term. The sooner we unlock it, the better. One extra zombie a day means we could regenerate our current undead army in a week.
Trap creation I (-10 xp): we seriously need something other than minions. Maybe amgic traps are overkill, so this should do until we get more xp. I have the feeling taht this will be countered by rogues.
Undead spell casters (-20 xp): because we seriously need magic minions. We need to diversify our stuff, and this is likely better than dungeon magic.
Batroom Bears ... is that a Bat?  (-25 xp): just out of curiosity. I have the feeling that this is going to be something agile/sneaky, and we currently need that.

Total xp usage: 85 points. There are 5 left.

And I vote on abstaining to use dungeon points until we know what we can create with our new powers.

+1

+1

[vjmdhzgr]

So, about the different decisions:

-Defy death:
Cast on bat, most expensive minion. We may want to think about resurrecting the mage and trying to convert him to our cause in the future

-XP usage:
Dungeon point generation III (-30 xp): mandatory long term. The sooner we unlock it, the better. One extra zombie a day means we could regenerate our current undead army in a week.
Trap creation I (-10 xp): we seriously need something other than minions. Maybe amgic traps are overkill, so this should do until we get more xp. I have the feeling taht this will be countered by rogues.
Undead spell casters (-20 xp): because we seriously need magic minions. We need to diversify our stuff, and this is likely better than dungeon magic.
Batroom Bears ... is that a Bat?  (-25 xp): just out of curiosity. I have the feeling that this is going to be something agile/sneaky, and we currently need that.

Total xp usage: 85 points. There are 5 left.

And I vote on abstaining to use dungeon points until we know what we can create with our new powers.

+1

+1

+1 I think that batroom thing is something we should definitely get because it seems like that's a special ability which will likely be more fun than the other ones.

[Hiddenleafguy]

+1 to the above statement.

[Ozarck]

I think dungeon magic is going to be stronger than minion magic. Especially as we gain seed power.

[Tomcost]

I think dungeon magic is going to be stronger than minion magic. Especially as we gain seed power.

But, what if casting it costs dungeon points or something? Tha's what I fear, that it is going to be once per combat spells, and considering that we can ressurrect our minions if we need to, it may be better to have them do magic for us. At least for now.

[Ukrainian Ranger]

Hm.... Why do we even need more advanced combatant minions?  Who said that buying more low level skeletons\zobmies\bats and letting them grow is not enough at this stage?

How about this plan

Dungeon point generation III (-30 xp)
Hymn of the Banshee (-50 xp)
Trap creation I (-10 xp)


It gives us -
1) More DP points to spend
2) Power boost that can open new abilities
3) Traps to supplement our minions

Next time when we will get XP we may decide to buy more advanced minions if current ones will become obsolete.

[fillipk]

When we can buy more powerful minions we can afford to sacrifice them to win

[Angle]

So, about the different decisions:

-Defy death:
Cast on bat, most expensive minion. We may want to think about resurrecting the mage and trying to convert him to our cause in the future

-XP usage:
Dungeon point generation III (-30 xp): mandatory long term. The sooner we unlock it, the better. One extra zombie a day means we could regenerate our current undead army in a week.
Trap creation I (-10 xp): we seriously need something other than minions. Maybe amgic traps are overkill, so this should do until we get more xp. I have the feeling taht this will be countered by rogues.
Undead spell casters (-20 xp): because we seriously need magic minions. We need to diversify our stuff, and this is likely better than dungeon magic.
Batroom Bears ... is that a Bat?  (-25 xp): just out of curiosity. I have the feeling that this is going to be something agile/sneaky, and we currently need that.

Total xp usage: 85 points. There are 5 left.

And I vote on abstaining to use dungeon points until we know what we can create with our new powers.

+1

+1

+1 I think that batroom thing is something we should definitely get because it seems like that's a special ability which will likely be more fun than the other ones.

+1. Trap creation should be especially useful, because it'll help keep our minions alive, which both saves us DP and gets us more powerful minions, and also because it opens up all sorts of interesting tactics - Archers behind pit traps, hidden passageways and ambush alcoves, retreat corridors with rolling boulder traps, etc. To put it simply, it gives us versatility, and versatility is great. More versatility means more dirty tricks.

[conein]

The problem with weak minions is that they get rolled easily, and if they die no upgrades. The gm himself said that numbers wont do much.

[adwarf]

Day 15, Part 4

Shortly after the battle ends you feel a flood of information running through you as your power grows even more until finally you become aware that there are so many possibilities available to you that you simply couldn't grasp before. Perhaps there is nothing to fear from the humans who gather an army outside your Domain, with this power perhaps you can manage to turn them into fuel for you to grow stronger once more.

Spoiler: Loot (click to show/hide)

Greatsword [Damage 5, Two-Handed]
Twin Daggers [Damage 3, Quick Attack]
Fire Staff [+1 to damage, and +1 to accuracy when firing off fire type spells.]
Enchanted Robe []
1 Lesser Health Potion [Heals 5 Health]
3x Short Spears [Damage 2, Reach]
4x Leather Armor [Armor Rating 1]
3x Rotting Buckler [Block Rating 10%]

Spoiler: Dungeon Stats (click to show/hide)

Dungeon Rank: 1
Dungeon Type: Catacombs

Experience: 5
Dungeon Points: 175 DP

Dungeon Heart:
Incomplete Lich King's Vessel - Safe

Dungeon Powers:
Defy Death - When one of your minions fall you may use the power of the goblet to bring it back from death though currently this power can only be used once per day.
Surpass Death - With your Heart's growth in power it has begun to regain some of its former powers, and now the Lich King's vessel is capable of planting a seed of its glory in one of your minions. When the seed is granted to a minion if they would've died they are instead healed completely and continue to fight long after their death was supposed to occur.

First Seed of Power - After acquiring Surpass Death a small seed of dark energies has become able to form inside of the incomplete Lich King's Vessel. This Seed of Power contains endless possibilities.

Dungeon Skills:
Dungeon Point Generation III - Using your accumulated power you increase your connection to the world's mana flow increasing your daily Dungeon Point Generation by 15.
Undead Minions I - Some of the innate knowledge of Dungeons has been imparted onto you revealing the method to create undead minions of a new, and more powerful tier to you.
Trap Creation I - You have managed to learn some of a Dungeon's supposedly innate knowledge on the creation of fitting traps. While these traps might be basic they are more than enough to make your danger far more dangerous to invaders.
Undead Spellcasters - After your minions slayed a magic user you've come to understand how to create undead beings capable of using magic, and can now mold vessels who can generate their own pool of mana.
Batroom Bears ... is that a Bat? - The creation of the Batroom has gained you some insight into the creation of a rather curious being.
Item Analysis - One of the lower tiers of a Dungeon's Innate Powers this allows you identify items, and gain some information on their stats though items of superior craftsmanship will surpass your ability to identify.
Dungeon Creation - You have obtained the knowledge of how to further develop your domain, expanding it down into the depths of the earth, or up into the reaches of of the sky as you please. Floor by floor, and room by room you can give birth to a vast labyrinth.

Spoiler: Guardians, and Dungeon Layout (click to show/hide)

Graveyard Area
Outside (Leads into the Mausoleum)
2x Giant Bat
Captain Bones [Iron Sword, Kite Shield, Leather Armor, Surpass Death, Inspiring]
Skeleton [Short Spear, Rotting Buckler, Leather Armor]
Skeleton [Short Spear, Rotting Buckler, Leather Armor]
3x Skeleton Archers [Bone Shortbows, Skilled Archers]
Skeleton [Bone Shortbow]

Mausoleum (Leads Outside or Down to B1 Entrance Hall)
No one.

Floor B1
Entrance Hall (Leads up to Mausoleum, and to Hallway 1)
No one.

Hallway 1 (Leads to Entrance Hall, and the Batroom)
No one.

The Batroom (Leads to Hallway 1, and Hallway 2)
6 Giant Bats

Hallway 2
No one.

Heart Chamber (Leads to Hallway 2)
No one.

Spoiler: Dungeon Management (click to show/hide)

Create another Floor - Using your accumulated power you add another floor to your Domain expanding it down to make it harder to reach your precious Heart.
Cost: 75 DP


Add a Room - With some work you expand one of your floors by adding a room, and connecting it to other chambers.
Cost: 15 DP [Small Room], 30 DP [Medium Room], 45 DP [Large Room]

Add a Hallway - You use your power to carve out a hallway between rooms instead of creating directly adjacent connections.
Cost: 5 DP [Small Hallway], 10 DP [Medium Hallway], 15 DP [Large Hallway]

Spoiler: Minions, Items, Traps, and More (click to show/hide)

Minions:
Skeleton - The weakest of minions available to you, they are the remnants of human corpses raised to protect you from those who would seek to steal away your Heart. Though they are weak they hold great potential for advancement.
Cost: 5 DP

Captain Bones - A skeleton whose purpose is to lead, and coordinate other skeletons in battle. They're about as competent in battle as any other skeleton, but their presence and the deathly aura they give off makes other nearby skeletons more efficient at killing their foes.
Cost: 15 DP

Zombie - Much more robust than skeletons your zombies, but somewhat slower and less agile these zombies are useful for taking a few hits while your stronger minions take care of any real threats. Can only equip armor.
Cost: 5 DP

Giant Bat - A small, and unassuming bat. Not the most powerful of creatures that might one day serve you, but given the chance they can prove just as lethal as any old bag of bones you bring forth from the ground.
Cost: 10 DP

Skeletal Mage - While most skeletons are incapable of wielding magical power this particular one has been carefully crafted by you to store magical energy in its very bones allowing it to wield the magic that commonly only mortals are capable of using.
Cost: 20 DP for Elemental; 25 DP for Illusion; 40 DP for Conjuration; 50 DP for Necromancy; 100 DP for Death Magic

Giant Bat Emperor - A being that is likely unique in this world born seemingly from your will, and that of some strange foreign entity. Unlike normal Giant Bats this one is nearly ten times as large and is much bigger than a human being. The Giant Bat Emperor is a fearsome beast with golden fur that feels almost like steel, and claws that rend metal and stone. Oddly enough there is a strange red symbol on its chest that looks like a somewhat simplified bat.
Cost: 75 DP; Can only create one.

Items:
Rusty Sword - Its an old, rusty sword. What did you expect? [Damage 2]
Cost: 5 DP

Bone Shortbow - A weapon carved from the bones of some animal with its bowstring made from its sinew. A powerful if somewhat unimpressive looking weapon. [Damage 2, Medium Range, Shortbow]
Cost: 10 DP

Rotting Buckler - This shield is about as old as the corpses you summon to guard yourself, while not the most reliable thing it is better than nothing. [Block: 10%]
Cost: 5 DP

Traps:
Pitfall Trap - A trap typically placed in hallways. This trap covers an area big enough to fit two people, and is fairly easy to detect for those trained to find traps. However, the trap is cheap and can be of significant use in cornering less prepared intruders.
Cost: 10 DP
Spike Pit - An advanced form of the Pitfall Trap meant to severely wound, or kill. This trap covers an area big enough to fit two people, and is somewhat easy to detect for the trained eye.
Cost: 20 DP
Rockfall Trap - The rockfall trap is a trap triggered by a tripwire. Those unsuspecting enough to break the tripwire trigger a mechanism that releases the net full of rocks that lays above their head.
Cost: 20 DP

GM Note: And here you have your first unique boss tier monster, enjoy.

[conein]

Get that super bat.

[TheBiggerFish]

???Question:
Can we do things like putting the tripwire for the Rockfall trap over the spike pit trap?  Or just beyond it?
How much force does it take to break the tripwire?
Can we trigger our own traps?
Do traps reset without particular effort on our part?