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How would you best see humanity of the future governed?

Regular human society governed by regular humans, because I'm boring like that
- 9 (33.3%)
Regular human society governed by glorious brainjar leader, because all hail brainjar
- 2 (7.4%)
Regular human society governed by AI administrator, because Arnold Intelligence too stronk
- 4 (14.8%)
Singularity of man and machine, because the new iHuman12 only has a gorillion ads
- 6 (22.2%)
Reg. human soc. governed by a biological computer, rule by ratbrains and open cans of worms makes visual metaphors easy
- 1 (3.7%)
Rule by magic 8 ball and Caligula's horse Incitatus
- 4 (14.8%)
Others? Please suggest, and argue in favour of hypnocracy - all hail hypnojar
- 1 (3.7%)

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Loud Whispers

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Re: Pick your future overlord
« Reply #15 on: June 28, 2015, 04:59:18 pm »

Again with the alpha centauri references...
Can we perhaps be more original?
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I am still for the AI scenario. Amusingly, the singularity avenue requires such an AI anyway.  The "The AI might kill us all!" angle is pure histrionics IMO.
How ALARMING and IMMORAL

The same fear mongering exists with GMO foods, and biotech. (Not to mention with things like high energy physics, or did all the fear mongering about microsingularities destroying the planet escape your notice?)
GMO foods and biotech do not have the same capacity to kill humanity as AI do. Rather hilarious, is that when developing atomic bombs some voiced concern that they may ignite the atmosphere and destroy humanity. Fortunately that didn't happen, but then humanity did nearly wipe itself out again in the cold war.
AI isn't biotech, nuclear bombs or Monsanto being disney evil. It's not something to embrace without caution. Much like all of the above tbh

Computer programs doing strange things is not a new phenomena, but on investigation, the anomalous behavior is always logical, and stemming from an error in the programming.
I dont advocate putting RoboCrat2.0 in charge immediately. RoboCrat needs to be worked on iteratively, and developed to manage human populations slowly and have time to have its bugs worked out. It should start doing simple management tasks, such as organizing small human workforces within an organization.
That's pretty much the only way it can be developed, the question is whether it should be

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Re: Pick your future overlord
« Reply #16 on: June 28, 2015, 05:02:39 pm »

I am still for the AI scenario. Amusingly, the singularity avenue requires such an AI anyway.  The "The AI might kill us all!" angle is pure histrionics IMO.

I object more to the implication that human politicians aren't likely to get us all killed
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Re: Pick your future overlord
« Reply #17 on: June 28, 2015, 05:03:45 pm »

Bohandas:

Agreed.  At least the AI is just doing what we told it to do.  Human politicians? Some just want to watch the world burn.
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« Reply #18 on: June 28, 2015, 05:04:53 pm »

I am still for the AI scenario. Amusingly, the singularity avenue requires such an AI anyway.  The "The AI might kill us all!" angle is pure histrionics IMO.
I object more to the implication that human politicians aren't likely to get us all killed
I'd rather be killed by humans than robits

Bohandas:

Agreed.  At least the AI is just doing what we told it to do.  Human politicians? Some just want to watch the world burn.
Elect me 2020 and I will pursue an economic policy of meltdown, a foreign policy of total war and a domestic policy of extermination :D

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« Reply #19 on: June 28, 2015, 05:07:42 pm »

Sounds like Putin's campaign!
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« Reply #20 on: June 28, 2015, 05:10:16 pm »

oh shit 10/10
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« Reply #21 on: June 28, 2015, 05:12:14 pm »

I want to vote for Caligula's horse Incitatus, and his running mate the Magic 8-Ball
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Re: Pick your future overlord
« Reply #22 on: June 28, 2015, 05:12:49 pm »

I like rule by humans.  As a member of the central bureaucracy of the most powerful nation-state, rule by humans puts me in the ruling class.
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« Reply #23 on: June 28, 2015, 05:15:06 pm »

I like rule by humans.  As a member of the central bureaucracy of the most powerful nation-state, rule by humans puts me in the ruling class.
Do bureaucracy good

Do it for Belgium

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« Reply #24 on: June 28, 2015, 05:17:31 pm »

I want to vote for Caligula's horse Incitatus, and his running mate the Magic 8-Ball

Do you think the body is well enough preserved that we could clone it?
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« Reply #25 on: June 28, 2015, 06:31:31 pm »

Why does RoboCrat2.0 need to be full general intelligence?

A simple deep learning AI like we already use for data analytics would do the job admirably. It does not need to be sentient, and I would rather it not be.

Say, something like IBM's Watson.
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« Reply #26 on: June 28, 2015, 06:36:23 pm »

Governance is just reaching and maintaining a local maxima. Fuzzy algorithms are all you really need.

Keep most of the people, mostly happy, most of the time. Keep crime mostly low, most of the time. etc.

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« Reply #27 on: June 28, 2015, 06:55:42 pm »

Why does RoboCrat2.0 need to be full general intelligence?

A simple deep learning AI like we already use for data analytics would do the job admirably. It does not need to be sentient, and I would rather it not be.

Say, something like IBM's Watson.

Exactly
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Re: Pick your future overlord
« Reply #28 on: June 28, 2015, 06:59:04 pm »

inb4 robocratv3.0 destroys humanity to protect the chilluns

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Re: Pick your future overlord
« Reply #29 on: June 28, 2015, 07:48:15 pm »

I think we should all just submit to the superior wills of our feline overlords-in-waiting. Obviously better than any of this "technology" stuff!

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