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Author Topic: Persona: Gaiden - OOC - Waitlist Open - Who's the MC?  (Read 61365 times)

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Re: Persona: Gaiden - OOC - Waitlist Open - Who's the MC?
« Reply #945 on: July 03, 2015, 07:31:46 pm »

Hm... that might be a bit complex to figure out for 12 people...

Maybe it could simply be 'Base Damage + Str or Mag' for skills and 'Weapon Damage + 1/3 Str or Mag' for normal hits? It's consistent, and doesn't take an hour to calculate. Would probably increase the base damage between tiers.

Of course, after figuring out the system, I'll allow re-stating if desired.

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But really, do what you want. I was fine with the old system and will probably be fine with whatever else. This would mean you need to find a new way to do endurance and probably something else for spirit to do, since we would be looking at ~60 damage from our strongest members strongest attacks.
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« Reply #946 on: July 03, 2015, 07:36:50 pm »

Hm... that might be a bit complex to figure out for 12 people...

Maybe it could simply be 'Base Damage + Str or Mag' for skills and 'Weapon Damage + 1/3 Str or Mag' for normal hits? It's consistent, and doesn't take an hour to calculate. Would probably increase the base damage between tiers.

Of course, after figuring out the system, I'll allow re-stating if desired.

Wolfram alpha is a mathy DM's best friend!

But really, do what you want. I was fine with the old system and will probably be fine with whatever else. This would mean you need to find a new way to do endurance and probably something else for spirit to do, since we would be looking at ~60 damage from our strongest members strongest attacks.

Keep in mind in SMT 60 damage is actually not bad. It'll oneshot most non-tank enemies and some of the tankier ones at level one.
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Re: Persona: Gaiden - OOC - Waitlist Open - Who's the MC?
« Reply #947 on: July 03, 2015, 07:38:54 pm »

Hm... that might be a bit complex to figure out for 12 people...

Maybe it could simply be 'Base Damage + Str or Mag' for skills and 'Weapon Damage + 1/3 Str or Mag' for normal hits? It's consistent, and doesn't take an hour to calculate. Would probably increase the base damage between tiers.

Of course, after figuring out the system, I'll allow re-stating if desired.

Wolfram alpha is a mathy DM's best friend!

But really, do what you want. I was fine with the old system and will probably be fine with whatever else. This would mean you need to find a new way to do endurance and probably something else for spirit to do, since we would be looking at ~60 damage from our strongest members strongest attacks.

Keep in mind in SMT 60 damage is actually not bad. It'll oneshot most non-tank enemies and some of the tankier ones at level one.

The only SMT game I played was Imagine, but I still know that. What I was saying that he would have to change how Endurance works to compensate for the damage change.
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Re: Persona: Gaiden - OOC - Waitlist Open - Who's the MC?
« Reply #948 on: July 03, 2015, 07:40:55 pm »

Hm... that might be a bit complex to figure out for 12 people...

Maybe it could simply be 'Base Damage + Str or Mag' for skills and 'Weapon Damage + 1/3 Str or Mag' for normal hits? It's consistent, and doesn't take an hour to calculate. Would probably increase the base damage between tiers.

Of course, after figuring out the system, I'll allow re-stating if desired.

Wolfram alpha is a mathy DM's best friend!

But really, do what you want. I was fine with the old system and will probably be fine with whatever else. This would mean you need to find a new way to do endurance and probably something else for spirit to do, since we would be looking at ~60 damage from our strongest members strongest attacks.

Keep in mind in SMT 60 damage is actually not bad. It'll oneshot most non-tank enemies and some of the tankier ones at level one.

The only SMT game I played was Imagine, but I still know that. What I was saying that he would have to change how Endurance works to compensate for the damage change.

Well, I mean doing that sort of thing is pretty normal, but if you think so.
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Re: Persona: Gaiden - OOC - Waitlist Open - Who's the MC?
« Reply #949 on: July 03, 2015, 07:43:32 pm »

Well, I mean doing that sort of thing is pretty normal, but if you think so.

That was a confusing sentence. So lets itemize what is going on.
-Current HP is in the hundreds
-Damage change would make most attacks two digits.
-Thus HP needs to be changed.

It might be obviose, but the Endurance change would have to be balanced with the damage change.
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Re: Persona: Gaiden - OOC - Waitlist Open - Who's the MC?
« Reply #950 on: July 03, 2015, 07:45:51 pm »

Hm. I think I'll try the thing I mentioned in the first battle of the first dungeon, and see how that works. If it doesn't, then I'll try the second battle under the Persona 4 system.

It might be obviose, but the Endurance change would have to be balanced with the damage change.
Hp is END times 5 instead of 10?
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Re: Persona: Gaiden - OOC - Waitlist Open - Who's the MC?
« Reply #951 on: July 03, 2015, 07:52:26 pm »

Hm. I think I'll try the thing I mentioned in the first battle of the first dungeon, and see how that works. If it doesn't, then I'll try the second battle under the Persona 4 system.

It might be obviose, but the Endurance change would have to be balanced with the damage change.
Hp is END times 5 instead of 10?

Since the damage is reduced by more then half, that would make END matter more then it currently does. Is that what you want?
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« Reply #952 on: July 03, 2015, 07:54:28 pm »

No. About as much as it currently does is the target importance. Maybe END x 3?
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Re: Persona: Gaiden - OOC - Waitlist Open - Who's the MC?
« Reply #953 on: July 03, 2015, 08:01:23 pm »

No. About as much as it currently does is the target importance. Maybe END x 3?

Eh, the heat has been baking me too much to do any more maths today. I would only suggest asking Mr.Void/Elf what they think, since they made the current system (that, as far as I am aware of, Geek was the only one to complain about  :-\.)

If you want to gauge public opinion, either before or after the rule changes, you can always put up a pole.
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Re: Persona: Gaiden - OOC - Waitlist Open - Who's the MC?
« Reply #954 on: July 04, 2015, 01:34:16 am »

Personally, I don't care what you do. Do what works best.

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Re: Persona: Gaiden - OOC - Waitlist Open - Who's the MC?
« Reply #955 on: July 06, 2015, 07:21:32 am »

You guys realize that this is japan, right? Where the freaking rumor about someone holding someones hand is considered a big deal?

And Kiyoshi has been heard and seen talking to two diffrent people about somebodies boobs.
Someone's quickly going to get a social stigma as some sort of creeper pervert.
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« Reply #956 on: July 06, 2015, 07:34:52 am »

TOO LATE TO RETCON OUR NON-JAPANESE ACTIONS
ABORT RP I REPEAT ABORT RP
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« Reply #957 on: July 06, 2015, 07:46:56 am »

TOO LATE TO RETCON OUR NON-JAPANESE ACTIONS
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Naw. Just... be prepared for social scrutiny.
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Re: Persona: Gaiden - OOC - Waitlist Open - Who's the MC?
« Reply #958 on: July 06, 2015, 07:50:13 am »

It's better then the alternative...
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« Reply #959 on: July 06, 2015, 07:50:24 am »

You guys realize that this is japan, right? Where the freaking rumor about someone holding someones hand is considered a big deal?

And Kiyoshi has been heard and seen talking to two diffrent people about somebodies boobs.
Someone's quickly going to get a social stigma as some sort of creeper pervert.

But this isn't real Japanese high school. This is Anime/Video Game Japanese High school, where perverted actions are ignored so long as they are entertaining and rumors are only for side characters and backstories.
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