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[Albedo]

In the latest version of the game, the wiki says wooden "training weapons" are "useless in combat" - is that also true if they are used in weapon traps?  I've got a lot planned, and at 10 weapons/trap even one extra "thwap" is better than nothing.

Even if they can't hurt anything if put into a weapon trap, would they still cause a target to try to dodge (and possibly fall into a conveniently adjacent pit)?  Just trying to think of a use for the cheap wooden weapons that caravans bring (before I have my glass/metal industry magma-powered).


(I know that training spears can be used for danger rooms, and wooden axes can chop down trees - but beyond that, and for any wooden swords...)

[NJW2000]

Presumably dodges, if you got lucky bruises, I think.

These would be fine, but watch out for trapping some goblins with these, unless you actually want to train them

[Linkxsc]

Well in some prior danger room testing, I managed killing a dwarf due to them being punctured through the brain by a wooden training spear... but he was wearing no armor whatsoever

[NJW2000]

Many cats have died to my military-industrial complex.

Ah, poor Zaneg Rithalnis, it is better that you never know

[Albedo]

Well in some prior danger room testing, I managed killing a dwarf due to them being punctured through the brain by a wooden training spear... but he was wearing no armor whatsoever

How "prior"? In previous versions, training weapons were simply "less lethal", but were still perfectly capable of causing injury and the rare "training" fatality.

[StagnantSoul]

I killed an elephant in a single hit of ten low quality training spears. I was experimenting with raising animal stats, and killed every single testephant in a single hit. Even at three training spears, they were getting covered in bruises, broken bits, and barely getting any buffer. Still, I had mighty elephants after three years in game of getting smacked with spears. Apparently, getting hit raises strength a little.

[Linkxsc]

Well in some prior danger room testing, I managed killing a dwarf due to them being punctured through the brain by a wooden training spear... but he was wearing no armor whatsoever

How "prior"? In previous versions, training weapons were simply "less lethal", but were still perfectly capable of causing injury and the rare "training" fatality.

I mean like the current versions, just like .09 or similar, 1 of the early march versions. Not df 2012 (since thats too far back)

[LordUbik]

It depends on wich kind of trap you want to install them. Normal training weapons, like training axes or swords, in a Weapon Trap are quite useless causing at most some bruises, but this can be used to cause the target to dodge. Taining spears can be more more dangerous expecially against unarmored targets due to the higer penetration.

Using taining spears in a raising spear trap insted can be really dangerous, expecially with a repeater. Enought hits can kill even daemons without too much effort. However, keep in mind that raising spears DO NOT attack without being told so with the use of a lever or others activation devices.

[PatrikLundell]

Although menacing spike traps are affected by the target material, so Green Glass spikes were totally ineffective when used on a Clear Glass FB. I don't know if a thick shell/carapace would block training spears completely, though. I suspect limbs would still be vulnerable.

[Shazbot]

Have your dwarven recruits wield training weapons and attack various non-threatening critters for quick and dirty combat training. If your enemy is, say, a wounded goblin with a helmet still on, they'll more or less pound him into a thin green slime before collapsing they ever collapse the skull.

[Albedo]

I had 2 raw unarmed recruits jump an anaconda (sent a squad of 3, but 1 never made it there) - got a lucky shot and blinded it and punched out all its (28!) teeth almost immediately [i[(tho' I'm sure that "luck" could have gone the other way and changed everything)[/i].  Even after it was (finally) unconscious, the 2 dwarves were so tired it still took forever for them to kill it, falling unconscious, waking back up, working a while more, repeating, etc.

Reminded me of any number of wildlife vids about big snake wrasslin'.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3VN-8c-W7Lk

Went to Fighter/Wrestler 5, plus misc other skills.

Wonder how that would have worked w/ training weapons.