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[4maskwolf]

Will it kill him?

No.  Toony can confirm this, but lynching him or me has no beneficial affects to the individual.  killing him at night, however, will, in the sense that it prevents something more negative than dying and reviving from happening.

He's right. Lynching me won't do anything, but killing me at night will help me out a bit.

If 4maskwolf is mafia, then I'll be willing to reveal my power's weakness. It does have one, but we probably wouldn't be able to implement it right now anyway.

Read: Can't implement it right now.

So, it's time to take a little journey into speculation land!

Every night before last, there were two kills a night.  Suddenly, after we lynch a third mafia member, both previous kills disappear and a new killing role takes a potshot at someone (me targeting Toonyman).  But even on the assumption that I'm mafia, we've got to ask: what happened to that second kill?  The one that offed Jack A T?  The one that killed either flabort or notquitethere.  It's time for speculation with 4maskwolf!

Our mystery killing role (likely a vigilante or serial killer of some kind) suddenly stopped killing last night, not making a nightkill.  It could just be that they were waiting for an obvious target to make themselves known, but I would like to propose another theory, one based on the role power that was used on Cheeetar last night and redirected to me due to my placechanging auto.

In my Night PM from Wuba, I was informed of my kill being turned into a one-shot right before it was used.  It was slightly odd that it wasn't to begin with given that, you know, it replaced almost all of my role including itself when used, but that's not the important thing.  The important thing is that it appears there is someone out there with the ability to turn role powers into one-shots, and that may have been what happened to our mystery killer.  Either N1 or N2, I theorize, they were hit with that power, turning their nightkill into a one-shot.  If it was N1, they burned their kill shooting Jack A T in the face: a noble effort.  if it was N2, they are conserving their last use of that kill until a later date.

Sorry about the canned "humor", I wrote that last night right before I went to sleep.

[Tiruin]

flabort - Wernher von Kerman
Ignore his genius, but you cannot ignore the greater... bad?

(1-Shot, Night) Achievement Unlocked! [target/self]: Reset all other 1-Shot abilities that the target or you have.
(1-Shot) Leave the Atmosphere: You are untargetable and unvoteable for the remainder of this Phase. All votes currently active are removed.
(1-Shot, Night) Paradigm Shift [target]: Change the target's alignment to Mafia-Ally.

Oh, and dickbag flabort said in deadchat that he did use his converter ability, but didn't say on who.

Tiruin, you mean this?

I meant before I viewed it recently--my memory came upon Mafia-Ally. Now its just all Mafia.
So...yeah, in a way? That's why I asked if anyone recalled anything else.

[Shakerag]

Okay guys, day's coming to a close, and I think this is where we stand:

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4maskwolf - IronyOwl,
Cheeetar -
Deus Asmoth -
IronyOwl -
Lenglon -
Persus13 -
Shakerag -
TheDarkStar - Lenglon,
Tiruin - Shakerag,
ToonyMan - Deus Asmoth, Cheeetar
No Lynch -

Not Voting - TheDarkStar, 4maskwolf, Persus13, Tiruin, ToonyMan,

6 To Hammer. Day Ends Wednesday 6 PM Central.

Cheeetar is voting someone he thinks is town, but is going to revive anyway, to no benefit.  And possibly won't be back in before deadline. 
4maskwolf apparently has the same revive as ToonyMan.

I really don't want to blow another extend, so can we see some convictions come out?

I'm still all for inspecting Tiruin's role via rolefip, but I'd be willing to get behind a Cheeetar/TDS/Persus13/IronyOwl(maybe) lynch. 

And some chucklehead will ask, so:
Cheeetar - Good pick for who got hit by the M-Ally beam.  He controlled the D1 lynch and hit scum, so I could see flabort assuming everyone would see Cheeetar as town after that and then zapped him N1.  Was a little bit boast-y and "hey I'm town"-ish afterwards. 
TDS - Felt like his interactions with Shamrock were awkward and could have been indicative of nervous scum trying to bus and/or distance himself from another scum.  However, he claims that he dies at the end of this day anyway.
Persus13 - Pretty much just not getting any town vibes, but his ToonyMan vote earlier was a bit "ehh". 
IronyOwl - Basically Tiruin, but with a bit more town feel.  However, since this is IronyOwl, I can't trust a town vibe from him, because experience. 

[Tiruin]

I'm still all for inspecting Tiruin's role via rolefip, but I'd be willing to get behind a Cheeetar/TDS/Persus13/IronyOwl(maybe) lynch. 

Eh, I may or may not have important information here--especially regarding you >_> But given the lack of Webadict replying to my query...

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I just rethought about it and found out that he could reply to it later on and there'd be a lacking difference -_-

Right. Sans what you said above--this is what I've planned since the start of D4.

I'm a JOAT--Used everything in the prior days on several different people. I do not have a kill--it is replaced with a complete subversion and opposite of a kill [see below]. Part of which I'm saying is useless without knowing what else others have done.

I tried to remove every kill action from Shakerag in the past few days [because lolobvious "Suicide"]--he is still able to 'kill' himself. -_- Said action = 'Remove all kill abilities from the target; sans Mafiakills = "The target loses all abilities that can kill. If mafiakill is accessible, they can still use that though." This is infallible [as far as I get the wording I:]

[Shakerag]

Tiruin:

I'm still all for inspecting Tiruin's role via rolefip, but I'd be willing to get behind a Cheeetar/TDS/Persus13/IronyOwl(maybe) lynch. 

Eh, I may or may not have important information here--especially regarding you >_> But given the lack of Webadict replying to my query...

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I just rethought about it and found out that he could reply to it later on and there'd be a lacking difference -_-

Right. Sans what you said above--this is what I've planned since the start of D4.

I'm a JOAT--Used everything in the prior days on several different people. I do not have a kill--it is replaced with a complete subversion and opposite of a kill [see below]. Part of which I'm saying is useless without knowing what else others have done.

I tried to remove every kill action from Shakerag in the past few days [because lolobvious "Suicide"]--he is still able to 'kill' himself. -_- Said action = 'Remove all kill abilities from the target; sans Mafiakills = "The target loses all abilities that can kill. If mafiakill is accessible, they can still use that though." This is infallible [as far as I get the wording I:]

Didn't work, sorry.  Part of the ability that prevents players from inspecting my role/abilities also prevents them from being stolen/copied/removed. 
Not doing you any favors anyway.  Outside of the one suicide ability you've seen, Teneb gifted me an "arsenic cigar" which is another suicide action.  So I'm very deadly to myself, what with two suicide actions.
Why were you so interested in removing my suicide abilities? 
And do you want to claim what other things you've been doing?

[Lenglon]

TDS - Felt like his interactions with Shamrock were awkward and could have been indicative of nervous scum trying to bus and/or distance himself from another scum.  However, he claims that he dies at the end of this day anyway.

I shake my head and scratch at the dirt:

TDS Liar. Guess Time Bomb. Lynch Now.

[Shakerag]

TDS Liar. Guess Time Bomb. Lynch Now.

Hmm.  That -is- a possibility ...

[Deus Asmoth]

Shake: that's probably a false impression created by me bringing up the topic of lurkers once but being asked about it several times. As for Tooney, my two possible answers here are:
1(if you mean why I think his behaviour was scummy), his general belligerence towards the end of the day served no purpose if he were town, especially town that was trying to attract the scum kill like he claimed.
2 (if you mean why he was acting like that) there are three possible scenarios I can think of. Either he had an alternate win condition that required him keeping specifically Shamrock alive, or he's a mafia ally that thought Shamrock was scum, or he's scum himself and wanted to save his teammate and also discourage further lynches of himself with his resurrect. The first scenario seems the least likely to me, so I think he's at the very least allied with scum.

[Deus Asmoth]

4mask, why do you think your theory is more likely than someone just getting protected from the second kill or being bulletproof? Or even the second killer also targetting Tooney?

Also, unvote Tooney, TDS since there's not much point in lynching him apparently and ending the day on a tie would be silly. Also, the possibility of TDS being C4 or something worries me.

[Tiruin]

Tiruin:

I'm still all for inspecting Tiruin's role via rolefip, but I'd be willing to get behind a Cheeetar/TDS/Persus13/IronyOwl(maybe) lynch. 

Eh, I may or may not have important information here--especially regarding you >_> But given the lack of Webadict replying to my query...

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I just rethought about it and found out that he could reply to it later on and there'd be a lacking difference -_-

Right. Sans what you said above--this is what I've planned since the start of D4.

I'm a JOAT--Used everything in the prior days on several different people. I do not have a kill--it is replaced with a complete subversion and opposite of a kill [see below]. Part of which I'm saying is useless without knowing what else others have done.

I tried to remove every kill action from Shakerag in the past few days [because lolobvious "Suicide"]--he is still able to 'kill' himself. -_- Said action = 'Remove all kill abilities from the target; sans Mafiakills = "The target loses all abilities that can kill. If mafiakill is accessible, they can still use that though." This is infallible [as far as I get the wording I:]

Didn't work, sorry.  Part of the ability that prevents players from inspecting my role/abilities also prevents them from being stolen/copied/removed. 
Not doing you any favors anyway.  Outside of the one suicide ability you've seen, Teneb gifted me an "arsenic cigar" which is another suicide action.  So I'm very deadly to myself, what with two suicide actions.
Why were you so interested in removing my suicide abilities? 
And do you want to claim what other things you've been doing?

-_-
>.>
*Tiruin looks at her own abilities.
C'mon. That was cheap. <_<
It's like I'm a Level 1 Windrunner vs L6 Leoric [/totallyDotAReference] Ugh. Stoopid useless one-shots.

Why I'm interested in 'removing' your suicide abilities is because I wondered if you were KILLING YOURSELF because [ulterior motive].
I will want to claim such but they're diluted unless others claim. :v Just letting others [town] know that I'm useless now [just don't NK me, vigs. :v Srsly. I'm honest in saying 'random one-shot kill if I'm killed'. As in one RANDOM PERSON will get a blockable, vanilla one-shot kill.]

TDS because in conciseness, I'm trusting Lenglon despite not having time to look back and really check TDS or Lenglon (despite me recalling a lot of benign or leaning town revolving around the latter due to her actions).

TDS - Felt like his interactions with Shamrock were awkward and could have been indicative of nervous scum trying to bus and/or distance himself from another scum.  However, he claims that he dies at the end of this day anyway.

I shake my head and scratch at the dirt:

TDS Liar. Guess Time Bomb. Lynch Now.

Err, did I miss something on why TDS is so D:

[4maskwolf]

4mask, why do you think your theory is more likely than someone just getting protected from the second kill or being bulletproof? Or even the second killer also targetting Tooney?

It's not particularly more likely, I was just proposing an alternative idea and letting you all know that I know about somebody's role actions.

Also, Cheeetar, if you have any actions that aren't already one-shot, you're welcome

[Shakerag]

Super.

Choo choo!  TDS for the usual reason of trying to avoid last-minute vote shenanigans.

Plus what I said above.

[Tiruin]

Super.

Choo choo!  TDS for the usual reason of trying to avoid last-minute vote shenanigans.

Plus what I said above.

I'm still bitter over that and your current lack of detail here :I
...Also last minute vote shenanigans? We're at a hammer...and the day end is hours from now. @_@ You're the 4th vote [if no shenanigans occur]. So...what?

[Shakerag]

Super.

Choo choo!  TDS for the usual reason of trying to avoid last-minute vote shenanigans.

Plus what I said above.

I'm still bitter over that and your current lack of detail here :I
...Also last minute vote shenanigans? We're at a hammer...and the day end is hours from now. @_@ You're the 4th vote [if no shenanigans occur]. So...what?

Day ends in 10 minutes, hon.  Hammer is 6 votes.  TDS has 4.

[Tiruin]

Super.

Choo choo!  TDS for the usual reason of trying to avoid last-minute vote shenanigans.

Plus what I said above.

I'm still bitter over that and your current lack of detail here :I
...Also last minute vote shenanigans? We're at a hammer...and the day end is hours from now. @_@ You're the 4th vote [if no shenanigans occur]. So...what?

Day ends in 10 minutes, hon.  Hammer is 6 votes.  TDS has 4.

. . .
"Wednesday 6pm "central""
. . .<_<
Fish. Timezone miscalculations. -_-
Why can't people use GMT[/compensatingForPersonalMathReasons]
...And, yeah, TDS has 4.

...Why would there be any shenanigans anyway--that'd HELP us find scum, more rather than not (because really, counting the scumcount, it'd be hilarious to out oneself IF TDS = nonscum AND for Mislynch)