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[Lenglon]

Actually Toonyman, I killed you because I figured you were flabort's conversion target.  Why?  Because a combination of parts of my role would have made Cheeetar (and very specifically Cheeetar) show up as mafia the night you claimed to have inspected him.

I watch 4mask and wait.
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I continue to watch him and wait.
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Eventually I draw in the dirt:

How?

[Persus13]

Actually Toonyman, I killed you because I figured you were flabort's conversion target.  Why?  Because a combination of parts of my role would have made Cheeetar (and very specifically Cheeetar) show up as mafia the night you claimed to have inspected him.

If you can make someone a Miller basically, why were you using it since it negates an inspect?

[Cheeetar]

Actually Toonyman, I killed you because I figured you were flabort's conversion target.  Why?  Because a combination of parts of my role would have made Cheeetar (and very specifically Cheeetar) show up as mafia the night you claimed to have inspected him.

If you can make someone a Miller basically, why were you using it since it negates an inspect?

Persus13, this particular question strikes me as full of assumptions. Why do you believe 4mask intended to make me inspect as Mafia?

[ToonyMan]

Oh I get it now. You made Cheeetar look like mafia. That seems awfully specific.

I can explain in more detail. My night action is a 'tracking' move. It allows me to see what player(s) the target actions.

On Night 2, I got the result that Cheeetar targeted nobody. Also, Shakerag didn't target anybody Night 1, but I guess that would be obvious.

I decided to vague-claim a town result on Cheeetar to attract a mafia kill during Night 3. I cannot actually guarantee that Cheeetar is town, simply that he wasn't action-ing anybody during Night 2.

[4maskwolf]

I'm a miller who used to be able to switch places with other people as an auto.  I switched places with Cheeetar to prevent him from dying after he force-lynched OSG, who was scum, but apparently nobody tried to kill him... Anyway, what you actually found, Toony, was that I took no actions that night, because my only action was the one I used on you last night (the kill).

Unvote, I'd be more suspicious of you but I know what your role is now and you're telling the truth.

[Persus13]

Actually Toonyman, I killed you because I figured you were flabort's conversion target.  Why?  Because a combination of parts of my role would have made Cheeetar (and very specifically Cheeetar) show up as mafia the night you claimed to have inspected him.

If you can make someone a Miller basically, why were you using it since it negates an inspect?

Persus13, this particular question strikes me as full of assumptions. Why do you believe 4mask intended to make me inspect as Mafia?

What assumptions? 4maskwolf admitted he had powers to make someone appear mafia. That negates an inspect, which is bad. Therefore I wanted to know why 4maskwolf was doing something to that effect.

[Lenglon]

Oh I get it now. You made Cheeetar look like mafia. That seems awfully specific.

I can explain in more detail. My night action is a 'tracking' move. It allows me to see what player(s) the target actions.

On Night 2, I got the result that Cheeetar targeted nobody. Also, Shakerag didn't target anybody Night 1, but I guess that would be obvious.

I decided to vague-claim a town result on Cheeetar to attract a mafia kill during Night 3. I cannot actually guarantee that Cheeetar is town, simply that he wasn't action-ing anybody during Night 2.

I make a new drawing in the dirt:

N3?

[Cheeetar]

4mask, I don't buy your auto specifically because Toony tracked you and you went nowhere. If you had swapped places with me using anything, I think that Toony tracking me (you) would've shown me (you) targeting me, so I'm doubtful to your claim of having swapped places with me (especially because it is a claim you made to pressure ToonyMan, and thus less trustworthy to me than a claim made just to share information.)

Also- why didn't you claim miller Day 1, especially given how terrible your auto makes investigating?

Actually Toonyman, I killed you because I figured you were flabort's conversion target.  Why?  Because a combination of parts of my role would have made Cheeetar (and very specifically Cheeetar) show up as mafia the night you claimed to have inspected him.

If you can make someone a Miller basically, why were you using it since it negates an inspect?

Persus13, this particular question strikes me as full of assumptions. Why do you believe 4mask intended to make me inspect as Mafia?

What assumptions? 4maskwolf admitted he had powers to make someone appear mafia. That negates an inspect, which is bad. Therefore I wanted to know why 4maskwolf was doing something to that effect.

Mmh, no, not quite. He said that his role led to me inspecting as Mafia, not that it was an intended consequence of his actions- coulda been something he had that targetted randomly, or essentially anything in his role he had less control over.

[Shakerag]

PSA:  Busy day.  Will return tomorrow.

[ToonyMan]

Oh I get it now. You made Cheeetar look like mafia. That seems awfully specific.

I can explain in more detail. My night action is a 'tracking' move. It allows me to see what player(s) the target actions.

On Night 2, I got the result that Cheeetar targeted nobody. Also, Shakerag didn't target anybody Night 1, but I guess that would be obvious.

I decided to vague-claim a town result on Cheeetar to attract a mafia kill during Night 3. I cannot actually guarantee that Cheeetar is town, simply that he wasn't action-ing anybody during Night 2.

I make a new drawing in the dirt:

N3?

I need to ask Webadict about a certain detail. Depending on what he says we might have a problem.

[Persus13]

Also- why didn't you claim miller Day 1, especially given how terrible your auto makes investigating?

4mask replaced in for Dorsidwarf so he can't answer this.

4mask: Why didn't you mention the Miller thing when you replaced in?

Mmh, no, not quite. He said that his role led to me inspecting as Mafia, not that it was an intended consequence of his actions- coulda been something he had that targetted randomly, or essentially anything in his role he had less control over.

Ah I see what you mean now, I didn't think of the random thing.

[webadict]

How's it going, guys? Long day, huh? Well, I bet it'd be longer dead. Heheh heh. Don't make me kill you.

Vote Count
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4maskwolf - Cheeetar,
Cheeetar -
Deus Asmoth -
IronyOwl -
Lenglon -
Persus13 -
Shakerag -
TheDarkStar -
Tiruin -
ToonyMan - Deus Asmoth,
No Lynch -

Not Voting - Tiruin, Shakerag, TheDarkStar, 4maskwolf, IronyOwl, Lenglon, ToonyMan, Persus13,

6 To Hammer. Day Ends Monday 6 PM Central.

[ToonyMan]

4maskwolf.

Okay, so. I received a one-shot redirect yesterday. I didn't know how many actions I could do at night, so I submitted these two actions in the following order.

1. Redirect 4maskwolf to Tiruin.
2. Track IronyOwl

It felt like 4maskwolf was going to target me during the night, and I personally I wouldn't /want/ to burn my revive. Assuming the worst case scenario of a kill, I decided to redirect them to Tiruin. I usually distrust Tiruin so if there was a kill action I would be okay with it.

I tracked IronyOwl to make sure no funny business was going on with our confirmed townie.

You can only use one night-action per night, so Webadict only resolved one.

When today started I assumed that Webadict must have taken my latest action, because 4maskwolf claims to have killed me. However, it was my redirect that cleared, not the tracker. Webadict confirmed this to me via PM.

This means I have no results for what IronyOwl did, but it does raise a contradiction.

Did 4maskwolf really kill me? If so, how?

A few things could have happened.

1. 4maskwolf has a penetrating kill that ignores redirects.
2. My redirect was unsuccessful.
3. 4maskwolf believes he killed me, but they actually killed Tiruin (who is somehow immune to night-kills), and somebody else successfully killed me.

You know what I believe? 4maskwolf implied he would be killing me the day before, because he believes I was Flabort's "convert target" and when I flipped town today he would either not reveal himself or go some sort of good town vig route. I'm not exactly trusting.

If 4maskwolf is really town, then I think it's second most likely that somebody blocked my redirect (and I am unaware of it). Seeing as how somebody stole my vote, it wouldn't be too surprising.

How do we explain this?

[Shakerag]

Tiruin:  Cast a vote.  Replace out.  Make a post.  Do something.

[Lenglon]

Tiruin:  Cast a vote.  Replace out.  Make a post.  Do something.

I look at Shakerag for 2 seconds, then nod and turn to face Tiruin.